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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Tender » Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:57 pm

It’s been a while since I managed five in a row.

Cooney must eclipse Stockcube for player of the season. He’ll likely be carpeted for telling the truth, which clearly isn’t permissible in Loganspan.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Russ » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:52 pm

Tender wrote:It’s been a while since I managed five in a row.

Cooney must eclipse Stockcube for player of the season. He’ll likely be carpeted for telling the truth, which clearly isn’t permissible in Loganspan.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Chris Montez » Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:46 pm

Irfu have retracted an earlier add for a 6 month unpaid internship - must not have been in keeping with their high moral values.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Spiffsson » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:17 pm

damianmcr wrote:BODs a dick


Now that's just insulting ------------- to the dick!
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby damianmcr » Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:19 pm

Chris Montez wrote:Irfu have retracted an earlier add for a 6 month unpaid internship - must not have been in keeping with their high moral values.

Oh it was a mistake. Were we born yesterday ffs.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Rockrugger » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:05 am

OneMore wrote:Save their visit counter the trouble:
Eamonn Sweeney

April 22 2018 5:00 PM

Is it time to abolish Ulster? Not the province, just the rugby team. After all, the IRFU were going to give Connacht the bum's rush a few years back only to change their mind after protests from some recalcitrant Western types. Perhaps it's time for another bold decision.

Jacob Stockdale could be sent to Munster to add firepower in the absence of Simon Zebo, Iain Henderson could work on his second-row partnership with James Ryan at Leinster and Rory Best's experience and leadership qualities would be invaluable to Connacht. Who else is there to worry about really? Job done.

After all, Ulster are in such disarray at the moment it'll probably be more trouble than it's worth to set them right again. Director of rugby Les Kiss has left and interim head coach Jonno Gibbes will be on his way shortly. Both men arrived with high reputations. Former Ireland defensive coach Kiss seemed like a possible future Irish manager but his stock has fallen disastrously over the past couple of years. Gibbes, a huge success as forwards coach at Leinster and Clermont-Auvergne, is leaving with a year still to run on his contract.

So it's back on the managerial merry-go-round for Ulster. Six years ago they reached the Champions Cup final against Leinster but parted company with head coach Brian McLaughlin all the same. McLaughlin cut an unglamorous figure and there was lots of talk from Ulster about the need to become world class. So in came New Zealander Mark Anscombe. His time at the helm saw two qualifications for the Champions Cup knockout stages, one after a 100 per cent record in the group stages, a record unbeaten run and an appearance in the Pro12 final.

Not good enough apparently. After Director of rugby David Humphreys left for Gloucester, Anscombe was sacked and replaced by Kiss who subsequently became director of rugby. Neil Doak had a go as coach after Kiss before being replaced by Gibbes.

All the while Ulster got worse. Four years in a row they've failed to make the knockout stages of the Champions Cup, finishing bottom of their group last season. They've become increasingly irrelevant in the Pro14 where they will probably end up having to play off against Ospreys for a place in next year's Champions Cup.

I've seen it suggested that the Belfast court case and the resultant absence of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding are partly to blame for Ulster's continued underwhelming form. Anyone making that argument should remember that last season Munster had to cope with the tragic death of their coach yet still made it to the Champions Cup semi-finals. They knuckled down, battled on and didn't feel sorry for themselves.

Self-pity never seems to be far away from Ulster. You might feel sorry for them if they didn't feel quite so sorry for themselves. Witness the players taking time out from underachievement last week to compose a statement about how 'sad' the sacking of Jackson and Olding makes them feel.

Meanwhile, a section of Ulster support has been blundering around the place and dragging the province's good name further into the mire. When a group of people concerned about the behaviour revealed in the Belfast trial took out a crowd-funded full-page ad in the Belfast Telegraph calling for Jackson and Olding to be sacked, 139 Ulster followers retaliated with one of their own supporting the players. The Ulster Rugby Supporters Club decided to tell us that the people who'd placed the first ad were not members of their club, as if this meant anything.

The club also threatened a boycott and called a protest in defence of the players which has now thankfully been cancelled. To make things even worse, they decided to survey their members and revealed that 79 per cent of them were either 'disappointed' or 'appalled' by the players being sacked, thus displaying their true colours to all and sundry. They will apparently be "writing to IRFU/Ulster Rugby next week to express members' considerable dissatisfaction and disgust at the recent turn of events."

Do these galoots not have any clue what their behaviour looks like to those outside the bubble? Are they not aware that this case has been reported and debated worldwide? Do they not know that there are many people for whom the first thing conjured up by the name Ulster Rugby is the comment by a woman alleging rape that she did not want to "go up against Ulster Rugby"? Can they not see that this case will take Ulster rugby years to live down? Do they not realise that the 'disgust' most people feel about the case has nothing to do with the contractual situation of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding?

You're left with the impression of a bunch of clowns who wanted nothing more than to see Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding run out at the Kingspan Stadium so they could give them the ovation of all ovations. What a great moment in Irish sporting history that would have been.

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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Cockatrice » Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:19 am

To some degree I can see what the young alledger meant by going up against UR feck we as supporters are afraid to. On BoD he can feck off no time for the Ashton... as for article we are basket cases led by the one man throughout but he is D4s man and is doing D4s for them better than anyone could have expected.. during the war we would have shot spies within but we will lap it up and move on.. as for being fosted D4 left overs a further sign why any self respecting coach wouldn’t want the job as he has no say on what players come in.. I suppose we must be grateful to D4... UR can feck off. I will soon support Exeter as they will have more Ulstermen than us..
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby rumncoke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am

Yes we would have given them an ovation unto the pitch because first and foremost, most of the spectators at Ulster had faith in the players that what was alleged had not occurred .

Most also recognised the severe cost socially, financially and emotionally of the four families who had been smeared by the lies of the claimant. That two players had lost possibly one year of what is a very short career for a case which should never have come to court.

And Lastly we also recognise that had the players played for Leinster Munster or Connaught the press and the # Ibelieverher feminist woman alliance of the Irish Republic would not have had the sacrificial players to demean and harass for 11 weeks .

If reform of article 8 is achieved rest assured the women of Ireland should donate a fortune to the legal costs of the players .
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby jackthelad » Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:10 am

Rockrugger wrote:
OneMore wrote:Save their visit counter the trouble:
Eamonn Sweeney

April 22 2018 5:00 PM

Is it time to abolish Ulster? Not the province, just the rugby team. After all, the IRFU were going to give Connacht the bum's rush a few years back only to change their mind after protests from some recalcitrant Western types. Perhaps it's time for another bold decision.

Jacob Stockdale could be sent to Munster to add firepower in the absence of Simon Zebo, Iain Henderson could work on his second-row partnership with James Ryan at Leinster and Rory Best's experience and leadership qualities would be invaluable to Connacht. Who else is there to worry about really? Job done.

After all, Ulster are in such disarray at the moment it'll probably be more trouble than it's worth to set them right again. Director of rugby Les Kiss has left and interim head coach Jonno Gibbes will be on his way shortly. Both men arrived with high reputations. Former Ireland defensive coach Kiss seemed like a possible future Irish manager but his stock has fallen disastrously over the past couple of years. Gibbes, a huge success as forwards coach at Leinster and Clermont-Auvergne, is leaving with a year still to run on his contract.

So it's back on the managerial merry-go-round for Ulster. Six years ago they reached the Champions Cup final against Leinster but parted company with head coach Brian McLaughlin all the same. McLaughlin cut an unglamorous figure and there was lots of talk from Ulster about the need to become world class. So in came New Zealander Mark Anscombe. His time at the helm saw two qualifications for the Champions Cup knockout stages, one after a 100 per cent record in the group stages, a record unbeaten run and an appearance in the Pro12 final.

Not good enough apparently. After Director of rugby David Humphreys left for Gloucester, Anscombe was sacked and replaced by Kiss who subsequently became director of rugby. Neil Doak had a go as coach after Kiss before being replaced by Gibbes.

All the while Ulster got worse. Four years in a row they've failed to make the knockout stages of the Champions Cup, finishing bottom of their group last season. They've become increasingly irrelevant in the Pro14 where they will probably end up having to play off against Ospreys for a place in next year's Champions Cup.

I've seen it suggested that the Belfast court case and the resultant absence of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding are partly to blame for Ulster's continued underwhelming form. Anyone making that argument should remember that last season Munster had to cope with the tragic death of their coach yet still made it to the Champions Cup semi-finals. They knuckled down, battled on and didn't feel sorry for themselves.

Self-pity never seems to be far away from Ulster. You might feel sorry for them if they didn't feel quite so sorry for themselves. Witness the players taking time out from underachievement last week to compose a statement about how 'sad' the sacking of Jackson and Olding makes them feel.

Meanwhile, a section of Ulster support has been blundering around the place and dragging the province's good name further into the mire. When a group of people concerned about the behaviour revealed in the Belfast trial took out a crowd-funded full-page ad in the Belfast Telegraph calling for Jackson and Olding to be sacked, 139 Ulster followers retaliated with one of their own supporting the players. The Ulster Rugby Supporters Club decided to tell us that the people who'd placed the first ad were not members of their club, as if this meant anything.

The club also threatened a boycott and called a protest in defence of the players which has now thankfully been cancelled. To make things even worse, they decided to survey their members and revealed that 79 per cent of them were either 'disappointed' or 'appalled' by the players being sacked, thus displaying their true colours to all and sundry. They will apparently be "writing to IRFU/Ulster Rugby next week to express members' considerable dissatisfaction and disgust at the recent turn of events."

Do these galoots not have any clue what their behaviour looks like to those outside the bubble? Are they not aware that this case has been reported and debated worldwide? Do they not know that there are many people for whom the first thing conjured up by the name Ulster Rugby is the comment by a woman alleging rape that she did not want to "go up against Ulster Rugby"? Can they not see that this case will take Ulster rugby years to live down? Do they not realise that the 'disgust' most people feel about the case has nothing to do with the contractual situation of Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding?

You're left with the impression of a bunch of clowns who wanted nothing more than to see Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding run out at the Kingspan Stadium so they could give them the ovation of all ovations. What a great moment in Irish sporting history that would have been.

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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Cracker » Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:41 pm

I see the mouth O'Driscoll is at it again saying Jordi should change his mind about Ulster. Boy does he really hate us and the Indo gives him full freedom to say just what he wants.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby justinr73 » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:43 pm

Wonder when he'll next be showing his smarmy chops in Belfast?

Maybe someone should remind him that 2 league titles in 9 years and a first final appearance in 6 years in Europe is hardly the stuff of legends either.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby ColinM » Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:51 pm

I'd be fecking delighted if that were Ulsters record.

Said it before, and again BOD is an abnoxious wee chube but he is not far off the money here. Of course we don't want high profile commentators calling us a basket case, but those are the sorts of comments that make headlines and that's the business these rags are in. Anyway if the basket case reference helps deflect attention towards our CEO and need for a really good coach and fly half then so much the better.

Obviously comments about players already committed to coming here are less than welcome - if he wants to 'appear' fair and balanced he should be pointing out the opportunity to build around players of Nordi's quality
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby GUBU » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:25 pm

Cracker wrote:I see the mouth O'Driscoll is at it again saying Jordi should change his mind about Ulster. Boy does he really hate us and the Indo gives him full freedom to say just what he wants.


Fair's fair. Brian reassures us that he has 'zero disdain' for Ulster.

I take 'zero' to mean 'total'.

Best to reciprocate by having 'zero disinterest' in his half arsed opinions.
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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby rumncoke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:14 pm

most here would agree all is not well in the home of Ulster Rugby we don't need B (ig) o ( f) D (ick) to tell us but he could of course identified why -- which comes down to mishandling of the province by Dublin allowed by Useless CEO -- who has now succeeded on getting the press on his case by
refusing to answer reasonable questions .

What defence did you as CEO of Ulster make for the retaining of Jackson and Olding ?


If the revocation of their contracts is based on the whatapp messages explain why Craig Gilroy is subject to a weeks suspension?

Do you consider it fair that the players have been disciplined for something which would be not be subject to the same exposure in any other province and as consequence they have actually been subjected to discrimination ?

What other factors were considered if it their revocation was not based on pressure from
sponsors or social media .?

We notice that calls for removal such as " Logan Out " banners and Jerseys were being removed by stewards supplied by Eventsec was this action requested and approved by the CEO are the supporters of Ulster Rugby to be denied freedom
of expression ?

What reasons did the IRFU give for the none replacement of in September when it was obvious that Payne , Jackson, and Olding all players of International standard
would unavailable all season ?

Do you consider that questions of such importance should be left unanswered by you or have you failed to ask the IRFU to explain or provide the answers to them .?

Logan is great at making statements but fails totally at answering questions when asked questions which would provide clarity in any situation his stock answer is " I'm not in a position to answer that "
etc
and fails to identify who can or should !!

Buck passing -- sorry Logan as CEO the buck stops at your desk !


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Re: More uninformed crap

Postby Russ » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:26 pm

Plus 1 Rum

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