Edinburgh vs Ulster

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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by 222toHounslow » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:03 am

Cracker wrote:More and more impressed by Billy Burns. He is becoming a first rate fly half and all credit to him after some of the criticism he has received on this site. Also delighted with how Ross Kane played when called on and if Eric O'Sullivan does not become a full Irish international in the future I will be amazed. As for Nordi. A superb signing and a Leinster friend of mine is doing his nut as to why the Mexicans let him go.
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by launish116 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:04 am

Tighthead Prod wrote:
Marty Moore has had a great season. His scrummaging has become much more solid and his work in the loose has improved out of all recognition !!

I have always rated Ross Kane as the best up and coming THP. His scrummaging is excellent which is his primary role , and although his loose play is not as eye-catching as TOT, he is no slouch in that regard either !! As others have highlighted the biggest threat to him becoming a top class THP is his susceptibility to injury.
Couldn't agree more! Moore has exceeded expectation and Kane has all the potential just needs to stay injury free.

TOT needs time to develop strength/power. He has the mobility and aggression only we can dream off for a tighthead, just needs to improve the scrummaging. Just remember he is very young and really only emerging on the senior scene.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by rumncoke » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:46 am

When fit --Burns is better than average but never has he shown anything which would class him as first rate --good seceond but definitely to date nothing first rate.

He has struggled at times this year due to injury.
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by big mervyn » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:43 pm

Any footage of the match out there?
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by BaggyTrousers » Sun Apr 14, 2019 4:33 pm

Speaking as someone who played every position in the backline though usually centre or fullback along with once as hooker and one flanker, some of you gabshites know the square root of feck all squared about propping, then add that you have the recall of a goldfish.

Rewind to Sept/Oct: Marty was injured and our scrum was being taken apart by all manner of modest front rows. When Marty reemerged all that crap stopped and with EOS gaining traction at LH the scrum became very stable if not exactly a weapon.

Wind back to date: Marty has been absolutely key to the stability of our scrum and not the useless fat lump around the pitch that many of you suggested when mocking him being signed. He has been excellent.

Now, disaster loomed on Friday night after 9 minutes when Marty departed. Ross Kane has had a season top forget, has barely played, but what a performance he gave for 71 minutes on Friday, solid as a rock and like Marty, doing good bits and pieces around the pitch. One moment of note came when they had just scored and another quick try could have had the alarms going off. Kane took the ball forward and looked set to offload an intercept pass for an own-try but had the wit to see it coming and drove forward into contact, retaining the ball. I liked that, a brain is a wonderful thing in a prop.

In my limited propping knowledge, he has the tools and has put in impressive performances, albeit not on a solid consistent basis. I retain high hopes for him.

Those of you sleggin' Marty clearly don't know yer arses from holes in the ground.

Now try to get the odd thing right so I don't have too keep making these instructional posts.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by rumncoke » Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:00 pm

2/3rds of bad scrums are due to bad referees .Referees who know the square root of FA about why scrums and how scrums are disrupted.

Nigel penalised Edinburgh early in the first half and I don’t think there was another scrum penalty in the game . Contrast this to the previous week the referee penalised Ulster and every scrum thereafter was a shambles .

I see know reason why Ulster would continuously scrum illegally against Glasgow and not against Edinburgh it defies logic .

I’ m not saying Nigel always gets it right but if a referee knows how and why and calls it right early it can save many minutes of farting about by the front rows and remove a lot of danger from front row and scrumming


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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by Setanta » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:23 pm

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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by Deraless » Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:01 pm

Was rewatching the highlights. So many good performances and several guys looked like they had their identical twins playing.

Not a big moment but it summed up Hendy for me. Embra had set up a maul on our 22. It was creeping forward and sideways. Hendy took a run at 'er from about 5m and piled in. This was enough to put Embra into reverse gear. Incredible.

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Post by Dave » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:32 pm

Deraless wrote:Was rewatching the highlights. So many good performances and several guys looked like they had their identical twins playing.

Not a big moment but it summed up Hendy for me. Embra had set up a maul on our 22. It was creeping forward and sideways. Hendy took a run at 'er from about 5m and piled in. This was enough to put Embra into reverse gear. Incredible.

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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by Columbo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:23 pm

Bart S wrote:Great performance and win. In some ways this was more impressive than the Leinster performance, aside from the fact we obviously won this time!

The Leinster game was one where ulster had nothing to lose, were under no real pressure and had a team full of highly motivated people, whether because of interpro rivalry, ireland selection or wanting to show their old province what they are missing. That is the kind of game where the adrenaline just flows and you get the extra 5% through motivation. Glasgow was tough after that not only to replicate that motivation, but even to get the energy levels back, plus most importantly, ulster were away to a very good side who were highly motivated to put on a good show in front of their own fans after taking a tanking at Saracens.

The up and down nature of recent weeks is because this side is still developing and is not (yet) close to going toe to toe with the big boys week in week out. I’d say Leinster, Munster and Glasgow are the top 3 sides in the league and losing away to that Glasgow team was no disgrace. Yes ulster fell apart but i think physical and mental fatigue set in ince the game started slipping away and we butchered a couple of decent opportunities. This is different from last season, where it seemed like the words away fixture led to a capitulation within 10 minutes of kick off.

Last night was a game where ulster were under huge pressure to deliver against a very good side with a formidable pack. Again last season, there was a softness in the ulster pack which meant teams knew how to beat ulster. Edinburgh would have been favourites at home and the way ulster took the game to them and withstood the pressure was fantastic. Yes they made a lot of errrors but what ulster did was keep the pressure in after the first couple of unforced errors which led to more doubt and panic in their ranks. Even when they came back at 7-22 there was no panic in the way ulster played.

2nd in the conference and a heineken qf represents great progress for the season. Ulster will be favourites for the qf and whilst in some ways anything from now is a bonus, i’d say having got the home qf, we now have genuine expectations to reach the semis.
good post. I think we’ll not just be favourites, we’ll be strong favourites, I’d be expecting a double digit handicap. I’m actually really glad the way this has worked out, because it gives us a chance to right the wrong from earlier in the season, with the home loss vs Connacht. I’m very fond of Connacht and always cheer them on when there’s nothing on the line for Ulster, but i really want us to go out and give them a proper old-fashioned hoking!
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by Columbo » Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:28 pm

Marco wrote:A mention for Ross Kane, was worried when MM went off so early but the young fellah did superbly, and Nordi was magnificent, just gets on with it each time, are we coming good in time for a huge May?
good shout re Kane, I have to confess more often than not when he comes on my instinct is to worry - he looks quite small for a TH, although he has put a bit of size on in the last year or so - but he’s always really solid, also tackles and carries pretty well. He’s still just 24, young for a TH.
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by big mervyn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:44 pm

big mervyn wrote:Any footage of the match out there?
Full match on Freesports at 2am tomorrow.
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:02 pm

big mervyn wrote:
big mervyn wrote:Any footage of the match out there?
Full match on Freesports at 2am tomorrow.
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by big mervyn » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:43 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
big mervyn wrote:Any footage of the match out there?
Full match on Freesports at 2am tomorrow.
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Re: Edinburgh vs Ulster

Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:39 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
big mervyn wrote:Any footage of the match out there?
Full match on Freesports at 2am tomorrow.
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Well past first sign if that's wot ya think. :duck:
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