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Draw on Tuesday: http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/31996.php#.U5VyMCiXeZR

Worst case scenario: Toulon, Leicester, Ulster, Toulouse
Best case scenario: Castres, Glasgow, Ulster, Treviso
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dcpete wrote: Best case scenario: Castres, Glasgow, Ulster, Treviso
Can't happen!
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BR wrote:
dcpete wrote: Best case scenario: Castres, Glasgow, Ulster, Treviso
Can't happen!
Correct as it seems now, no more than 2 of any league in and group and further defined as no 2 of the same country of the PRO12 teams in any group so Ulster, Munster and Leinster will be in different groups
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Best case, I'm thinking:

CO, Uls, Bath, Trev
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What time is the draw itself at?
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ruckover wrote:What time is the draw itself at?
Whenever Sarries return from wolfpack banter to draw the balls

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Russ wrote:
ruckover wrote:What time is the draw itself at?
Whenever Sarries return from wolfpack banter to draw the balls

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They'll have to find them first. Why can't Sarries just fall into a bottomless pit?
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I assume it'll be

Saracens
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4th seeds it is then….
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Rooster wrote:
BR wrote:
dcpete wrote: Best case scenario: Castres, Glasgow, Ulster, Treviso
Can't happen!
Correct as it seems now, no more than 2 of any league in and group and further defined as no 2 of the same country of the PRO12 teams in any group so Ulster, Munster and Leinster will be in different groups
Ah, fair point. A trip to Italy seems very unlikely then!

Despite the way it was delivered the changes have resulted in a much tougher competition. Qualification for the quarters will be a massive achievement.
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dcpete wrote:
Rooster wrote:
BR wrote:
dcpete wrote: Best case scenario: Castres, Glasgow, Ulster, Treviso
Can't happen!
Correct as it seems now, no more than 2 of any league in and group and further defined as no 2 of the same country of the PRO12 teams in any group so Ulster, Munster and Leinster will be in different groups
Ah, fair point. A trip to Italy seems very unlikely then!

Despite the way it was delivered the changes have resulted in a much tougher competition. Qualification for the quarters will be a massive achievement.
Still possible though eg Sarries, a Frog, Ulster, Treviso

Any way there is still the league match in Treviso
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4th seeds it is then….

RANK 4: Quins, Racing Metro and Ulster

Toulouse ranked 6 could cause a few problems
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European Rugby Champions Cup Pool Draw Explained
The draw for the composition of the pools for the 2014/15 European Rugby Champions Cup and European Rugby Challenge Cup tournaments will take place at the Stade de la Maladière, Neuchâtel, Switzerland on Tuesday 10th June at 12 noon. Here is everything you need to know about the format of the draw before it takes place...

Ulster will be in the draw for the European Rugby Champions Cup competition after finishing fourth in the RaboDirect PRO12.

Saracens, Toulon and Leinster will be the top seeds with two of the three second-placed clubs from the Premiership, Top 14 and RaboDirect PRO12 also to be ranked.

A separate draw will determine which two from Glasgow Warriors, Northampton Saints and Castres will earn top seeding, with the two clubs guaranteed to avoid the respective top seeds in the draw to determine the make up of the five pools of four clubs.

The draw will be streamed live on epcrugby.com and there will be reaction to the draw from Ulster Rugby Chief Executive, Shane Logan on Tuesday afternoon.

European Rugby Champions Cup Draw

• The 20 clubs which have qualified on merit from the Aviva Premiership, Top 14 and PRO12 Leagues will compete in the 2014/15 European Rugby Champions Cup in five pools of four

• The clubs are divided into four tiers based on their qualification position from their respective leagues

• This will be done where necessary by a draw

• Each pool will have at least one club from each of the three Leagues

• Each of the five pools will have one club from each of the four tiers

• There will be no more than two clubs from the same League in a pool

• No pool will contain two PRO12 clubs from the same country

• Clubs from the same League will be kept apart until the allocation of the Tier 4 clubs
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Tier 1

Tier 1 will include the three number one ranked clubs from the Aviva Premiership, the Top 14 and the PRO12. Tier 1 will also include two of the three clubs which are ranked second from the Aviva Premiership, the Top 14 and the PRO12 Leagues. The two clubs will be decided by a draw.

Tier 2

Tier 2 will include the three clubs which are ranked third from the Aviva Premiership, the Top 14 and the PRO12. (Aviva Premiership: Leicester Tigers; Top 14: Montpellier; PRO12: Munster Rugby). Tier 2 will also include the runner-up club which was not drawn into Tier 1, and the club which is ranked fourth from the same League as the club which was not drawn into Tier 1.

Tier 3

Tier 3 will include the two clubs ranked fourth which are not in Tier 2. (If Aviva Premiership: Harlequins; If Top 14: Racing Metro 92; If PRO12: Ulster Rugby). Tier 3 will also include the three clubs which are ranked fifth from each League. (Aviva Premiership: Bath Rugby; Top 14: ASM Clermont Auvergne; PRO12: Ospreys).

Tier 4

Tier 4 will include the three clubs which are ranked sixth in the Leagues. Tier 4 will also include the Italian qualifier (7th ranked club from the PRO12) and the play-off qualifier.
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Tier 2

Tier 2 will include the three clubs which are ranked third from the Aviva Premiership, the Top 14 and the PRO12. (Aviva Premiership: Leicester Tigers; Top 14: Montpellier; PRO12: Munster Rugby). Tier 2 will also include the runner-up club which was not drawn into Tier 1, and the club which is ranked fourth from the same League as the club which was not drawn into Tier 1.



so if glasgow go into tier 1, ulster will be in tier 3 OR if glasgow go into tier 2 then ulster are also in tier 2 (I think!)
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