Ulster v Hairyqueens

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Re: Ulster v Hairyqueens

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Feel a sense of perspective is needed

Yes we shipped 24 points but when you consider 2 of those tries came from 1) an intercept which led to massive space and 2) our last line of defense was down getting treatment

I dont think the drift defence is maybe as porous as you think. When used properly it can be seen to be effective and to use it properly there needs to be guys with pace drifting so if an outside break is made the sweeper or the last drifters have the pace to catch up. That’s when using Trimble and Bowe exposes the system as they may have the brain but dont have the pace to catch anyone making a break. Example, when Trimble and Nelson came on there was a massive amount of space for Quins to run in to, and they made some space because a) Trimble wasnt in position and had to sprint to make up the gap. So as I say, if used properly, it can be effective

Also consider Ludik was at 13 where he has publicly stated he doesnt really like playing in the 13 channel

The point about the missed tackles is a worry but I dont think that’s the drift defences fault but it falls to poor coaching from Les and Jono as defence and forwards coach
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Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cornerfleg wrote:Any talk among the troops or those in the know why there was no 'fan interaction' at the start or after the whistle went?????
There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
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BR wrote:
Rovi Snave wrote:
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BR wrote:I'm concerned that it was more the weather that beat Quins on Sunday, than anything that Ulster did.

However - the rotation by Quins should mean we have the edge again tonight.

I'm sure a number of those Quins players will be trying to prove a point (either for the club, or for themselves), so it'll come down to whether or not we are having a defence tonight. I'm going with a TBP for Quins - hoping for 4-2 rather than 0-5.

A works do would be the perfect excuse to avoid this, but sitting in the house, I may be tempted to turn on the wireless. Please tell me it's only on MW!
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The only thing you can predict about Ulster this weather is that there will be tries galore for amd against.
Give us space for our wide men to operate and we look so threatening.
Hendy and McCloskey gives us the go forward threat to allow them the space to do that.

Problem is the better sides squeeze you and don't let you play that way.

The early Herring linebreak through the middle of the Quins midfield was jawdroppingly awful from them considering the Qe2 could have got through that.
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Russ wrote:
Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cornerfleg wrote:Any talk among the troops or those in the know why there was no 'fan interaction' at the start or after the whistle went?????
There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
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kingofthehill wrote:Highlight for me was watching Trump... sorry I mean Ferris squirm at the post match analysis with Kiss. Doyle absolutely brilliant from you.


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Slightly awkward wasn't it?

I'd have asked Ferris how many teams have lost fewer games than Ulster this season across the Pro 14, France and England.

Hint - it's one.
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Cockatrice wrote:
Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cornerfleg wrote:Any talk among the troops or those in the know why there was no 'fan interaction' at the start or after the whistle went?????
There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
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Cockatrice wrote:
Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cornerfleg wrote:Any talk among the troops or those in the know why there was no 'fan interaction' at the start or after the whistle went?????
There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
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Russ wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cornerfleg wrote:Any talk among the troops or those in the know why there was no 'fan interaction' at the start or after the whistle went?????
There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
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HWM jostling with a couple of stewards, centre pitch. Has a bit of a wrestle with another one and they both fall over. All good fun.

It's on URSC bakebook. Take it you're not a "friend" of theirs Russ :lol:
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big mervyn wrote:
Russ wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
Gerald the Mole wrote:
big mervyn wrote: There was 'fan interaction' after the whistle went

https://www.facebook.com/rob.pooley.31/ ... 135550528/
I hope he is banned from the ground for life.
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HWM jostling with a couple of stewards, centre pitch. Has a bit of a wrestle with another one and they both fall over. All good fun.

It's on URSC bakebook. Take it you're not a "friend" of theirs Russ Image
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justinr73 wrote:
kingofthehill wrote:Highlight for me was watching Trump... sorry I mean Ferris squirm at the post match analysis with Kiss. Doyle absolutely brilliant from you.


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Slightly awkward wasn't it?

I'd have asked Ferris how many teams have lost fewer games than Ulster this season across the Pro 14, France and England.

Hint - it's one.
We are indeed brill but Kiss explaining his defence looks like a shambles was interesting.. at least SKY mentioned the dreaded D word to him.
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UlsterAreBrill wrote:Feel a sense of perspective is needed

Yes we shipped 24 points but when you consider 2 of those tries came from 1) an intercept which led to massive space and 2) our last line of defense was down getting treatment

I dont think the drift defence is maybe as porous as you think. When used properly it can be seen to be effective and to use it properly there needs to be guys with pace drifting so if an outside break is made the sweeper or the last drifters have the pace to catch up. That’s when using Trimble and Bowe exposes the system as they may have the brain but dont have the pace to catch anyone making a break. Example, when Trimble and Nelson came on there was a massive amount of space for Quins to run in to, and they made some space because a) Trimble wasnt in position and had to sprint to make up the gap. So as I say, if used properly, it can be effective

Also consider Ludik was at 13 where he has publicly stated he doesnt really like playing in the 13 channel

The point about the missed tackles is a worry but I dont think that’s the drift defences fault but it falls to poor coaching from Les and Jono as defence and forwards coach
Try this for perspective. Last season we conceded a record number of tries and failed to make any knock out match, that usually happens when your defence allows teams both good & bad to saunter through.

Chillingly, this season we are ahead to record pace to concede an even larger number of tries.

Now, none of this is simply opinion, it is cold hard fact. That's where I reach for my perspective, realism.

However, like you I don't give a fig what system they use, I just want them to stop leaking tries to poor teams like Dragons & Hairyquims.

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Question: which of the following teams would have beaten that Quins team last night?

Connacht
Treviso
Zebra
Kings
Leinster A*

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Needless to say, far too many missed tackles and set pieces are both an issue.

Damn our backs can play some rugby.

I overheard a consultant orthopedic seer declaring that CP has done his ACL. So that's him done then.
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Inspector Brown wrote:Needless to say, far too many missed tackles and set pieces are both an issue.

Damn our backs can play some rugby.

I overheard a consultant orthopedic seer declaring that CP has done his ACL. So that's him done then.
On replay it doesn't look good....
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The quims came with nothing to play for but pride and no Englishman has had any real pride since they lost the Raj.
Ulster may not have lost a lot of games, but they've dropped BPs against Mickey Mouse outfits and have been embarrassed along the way. Struggling just doesn't begin to cover it.
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