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Or Hugh McCaughey?
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Fair call BR. Is he still a civil servant?

Shane is really going to get shown up here. Will show just how bad he is.
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BR wrote:Or Hugh McCaughey?
McCaughey would be a decent choice actually, feck any man who is attempting to run a division of the health service on a shoestring budget and lack of sufficient staff due to no one having the foresight to train them years ago is well used to pressure situations, ok the NHS has it fair share of useless managers but Hugh is not one of the tossers.
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Guys, the guys you mention are probably the likeliest but my concern about them is, having had successful careers elsewhere is there hunger there to need to succeed.

As I've said before, my ideal candidate is a man who needs to make a living from this, not a guy with a hobby job in retirement. That may well underestimate guys, but it's the reason that I'd happily see Bryn at the helm and if they are interested, having people like Gordy Hamilton & Hugh McCaughey available to support or even mentor, probably neither of them "need" the job.

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BaggyTrousers wrote:Guys, the guys you mention are probably the likeliest but my concern about them is, having had successful careers elsewhere is there hunger there to need to succeed.

As I've said before, my ideal candidate is a man who needs to make a living from this, not a guy with a hobby job in retirement. That may well underestimate guys, but it's the reason that I'd happily see Bryn at the helm and if they are interested, having people like Gordy Hamilton & Hugh McCaughey available to support or even mentor, probably neither of them "need" the job.

Ach, but waddyeyeno?
These 'hobby' jobs in retirement are usually part time non exec roles and of course we'd all like to see a professional non exec board overseeing the pro gamebut is that too much to ask?

If one of the above mentioned were interested in a CEO role I would take enough from their own desires not to jeopardise their hard earned reputations

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BaggyTrousers wrote:Guys, the guys you mention are probably the likeliest but my concern about them is, having had successful careers elsewhere is there hunger there to need to succeed.

As I've said before, my ideal candidate is a man who needs to make a living from this, not a guy with a hobby job in retirement. That may well underestimate guys, but it's the reason that I'd happily see Bryn at the helm and if they are interested, having people like Gordy Hamilton & Hugh McCaughey available to support or even mentor, probably neither of them "need" the job.

Ach, but waddyeyeno?
Baggy,

I think there is room for a CEO with commercial or public service as their main selling point and having Bryn there as his/her right hand man with all things rugby business related. All the same, my ideal candidate would be a rugby person with high level playing experience who doesn't have an ego the size of Antarctica, is there for the right reasons, i.e. to take UR forward, build from the ground up and make us a sensible, rugby centred team/organisation that do their best to nurture local talent. Avoid Daves from F@ck knows where, who don't end up playing/contributing, avoid brass f@cking bands, avoid cheer leaders, avoid cultures that make players think like their the biggest swinging d1cks in Belfast, avoid sponsorships of everything you can think of, Take it back to basics, That's what i want. Good honest rugby, played in an no quarter given kind of way. Oh yes, AND A F@CKING CEO WHO DOESN'T F@CKING LIE HIS LIFE AWAY.
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>yahoo
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Ethel wrote:>yahoo
have you heard something ethel?
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pwrmoore wrote:
Ethel wrote:>yahoo
have you heard something ethel?
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I don't know the specific guys mentioned, but IMO the absolute last thing we want is someone from the Civil Service. I've had the misfortune to spend some time in certain parts of the NICS and what I encountered was wall-to-wall avoidance of responsibility, ass-covering, failure to challenge bad decisions or ask questions - from bottom to top... (sound familiar?) The RHI tribunal is doing a great service by bringing a lot of this stuff to light.

In my experience, to the extent there are switched on people in the CS, they are basically switched off, and unabashedly there for the easy life.

So I think to get someone from the CS you'd risk either getting Shane Logan the second, or someone who wants an easy time of it
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ColinM wrote:These 'hobby' jobs in retirement are usually part time non exec roles and of course we'd all like to see a professional non exec board overseeing the pro gamebut is that too much to ask?

If one of the above mentioned were interested in a CEO role I would take enough from their own desires not to jeopardise their hard earned reputations

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The NED point is interesting - firstly its a reminder that actually Ulster is a branch not a subsidiary, and so doesn't have its own directors, or a board. Which has a bearing on the 'CEO' role, because really it's not a CEO role - it's effectively an Ops Director role (overseeing local finance, marketing, operations teams, and reporting to the board in Dublin), with a requirement for the job holder to be media-savvy given the disproportionately high profile nature of the business.

NEDs can be really beneficial for a business though, and I actually think it would be a really good idea to try to incorporate them somehow in the branch governance structure - the success or otherwise always depends on getting the right candidates, but some wily, tough local business people, perhaps retired or sold their business, in at Ulster 'board' meetings once or twice a month to challenge / advise the CEO..
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Ethel wrote:>yahoo
Come on Ethel - spill the beans!!!

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Columbo wrote:
ColinM wrote:These 'hobby' jobs in retirement are usually part time non exec roles and of course we'd all like to see a professional non exec board overseeing the pro gamebut is that too much to ask?

If one of the above mentioned were interested in a CEO role I would take enough from their own desires not to jeopardise their hard earned reputations

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The NED point is interesting - firstly its a reminder that actually Ulster is a branch not a subsidiary, and so doesn't have its own directors, or a board. Which has a bearing on the 'CEO' role, because really it's not a CEO role - it's effectively an Ops Director role (overseeing local finance, marketing, operations teams, and reporting to the board in Dublin), with a requirement for the job holder to be media-savvy given the disproportionately high profile nature of the business.

NEDs can be really beneficial for a business though, and I actually think it would be a really good idea to try to incorporate them somehow in the branch governance structure - the success or otherwise always depends on getting the right candidates, but some wily, tough local business people, perhaps retired or sold their business, in at Ulster 'board' meetings once or twice a month to challenge / advise the CEO..
Columbo.... those people have been around for a while currently Tetterington and previously others like Hamilton, Dobbin and others beside.. in fact a lot of the so call better business has been down to some of these others .... take the stadium rebuild the current dickbrian who claims it all down to him was little more than NIHE tenant who sat back and let the project develop around him.. it shouldn’t go unnoticed who the Chair of the SIB was when they drove the project.. and who later became Chair of the PMC and who got out when he seen what was coming..
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