Yup. Thon biy works for Santander.Jackie Brown wrote:Paul Marshall, Sparky, Tommy Bowe and now this!
In all seriousness how did we ever expect PJ and SO to get fair voice in the media when this is their level of intelligence.
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Ulster and Telegraph. We deserve each other.
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About as accurate as their coverage of the rape trial.
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A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
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Why come on and start a slabberin' match in the one fecking positive thread we've had all year?Shan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
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Toss up between him and Munsters 2nd scrum half. Shan is obviously just trying to stir.Deraless wrote:Why come on and start a slabberin' match in the one fecking positive thread we've had all year?Shan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
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Shan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
You're talking out yer pipe Shan. I expected more graciousness from you. A few years ago, he was being touted as the next Irish scrum half by the southern media when Murray was injured! To say he's 4th choice in any "reasonable club ", whatever that means, does him a disservice.
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Right, allow me to step in right now, and stop the bullshite.Shan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
For those of you taking umbrage at the above, wise yer feckin' heads up. It was not Ruan Pienaar blocking scrum-half development, it was Ulster Rugby not having the balls to get rid of p when it was blatantly obvious he had talent but neither the rugby brain nor in all honesty the pass to make a starting player, yet nobody got a look in.
Ruan is gone because Ulster hung on to p way past the time he had proven to be less than reliable. They should have been looking for someone who could grow from exposure to the great man, p never showed any sign that Ruan was getting him anywhere. UR should have been giving other guys the gig.
Now I had wanted to let this pass with no real sniping at p but here we go, for I've had enough shyte to do me a lifetime recently, I'm not having more.
So:
- yes, p has 200+ caps and for me, that is an indictment of Ulster, he is not and never has been worthy of the honour, 100+ of the bench, most of the rest when Ruan was away with SA. He is as undeserving as Robbie Diack to have played 200 times.
- Bleeds Ulster I hear you saying, well maybe, but some of you will know that not once but twice he has signed contracts with English clubs. If I have the story right, be got out of one within an hour, the second the following day. I counted each as an opportunity missed for Ulster
- My abiding memories of him will be the frustrating number of "own tries" he has been responsible for, the endless poor decisions and a wish that Rory's boot up his hole had been terminal.
- In conclusion Shan is 100%, at best he is a useful sub - occasionally, just as often he will throw away a game or LBP.
I still wish him well.
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I bid him farewell.
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All the very best to Paul and his family. If what Baggy says is true, what second choice player wouldn't want to be first choice, and moving club is a decent way to do that. I suppose any professional has to know what side his bread is buttered on. At the end of the day, he stayed and was a very fine servant of the club.
I also don't buy the idea that Ulster stuck with him when there were other young players waiting to break through. Would even UR really say, 'He's a nice guy, we'll keep playing him even though he's not worth his place' ?
Nice guy, good player, sad to see him go.
I also don't buy the idea that Ulster stuck with him when there were other young players waiting to break through. Would even UR really say, 'He's a nice guy, we'll keep playing him even though he's not worth his place' ?
Nice guy, good player, sad to see him go.
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Peter OMahony hasnt half the pishun of pShan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
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I'm fairly sure he never put pen to paper for an English club.BaggyTrousers wrote:Right, allow me to step in right now, and stop the bullshite.Shan wrote:A below average player who would have been lucky to be 4th choice at any reasonable club with normal ambition levels. I don't doubt his love of Ulster but love of a province and loyalty to same is fairly meaningless nonsense except for those with a perpetual loser mentality. Good luck to him in the more important aspect of his life and I hope their situation improves.
For those of you taking umbrage at the above, wise yer feckin' heads up. It was not Ruan Pienaar blocking scrum-half development, it was Ulster Rugby not having the balls to get rid of p when it was blatantly obvious he had talent but neither the rugby brain nor in all honesty the pass to make a starting player, yet nobody got a look in.
Ruan is gone because Ulster hung on to p way past the time he had proven to be less than reliable. They should have been looking for someone who could grow from exposure to the great man, p never showed any sign that Ruan was getting him anywhere. UR should have been giving other guys the gig.
Now I had wanted to let this pass with no real sniping at p but here we go, for I've had enough shyte to do me a lifetime recently, I'm not having more.
So:
- yes, p has 200+ caps and for me, that is an indictment of Ulster, he is not and never has been worthy of the honour, 100+ of the bench, most of the rest when Ruan was away with SA. He is as undeserving as Robbie Diack to have played 200 times.
- Bleeds Ulster I hear you saying, well maybe, but some of you will know that not once but twice he has signed contracts with English clubs. If I have the story right, be got out of one within an hour, the second the following day. I counted each as an opportunity missed for Ulster
- My abiding memories of him will be the frustrating number of "own tries" he has been responsible for, the endless poor decisions and a wish that Rory's boot up his hole had been terminal.
- In conclusion Shan is 100%, at best he is a useful sub - occasionally, just as often he will throw away a game or LBP.
I still wish him well.
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Indeed, he dropped the pen first time and second time he tried a Tap'n'Go and ran straight into two props. Typical p
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