Payne defence coach - confirmed

[Kofi Annan]

I think it’s a poor decision . Really any type of coach should go somewhere away from their team and cut their teeth, trust themselves and go develop , I don’t get this “he is a brill defence coach “ bit at all.

I am prepared to be wrong on this, but I don’t think I am.

So what’s Malones new title, was he not Defensive Coach, Skills Coach, Analyst and chief coffee maker.

We are just doing the same all over again.

[Gerald the Mole]

Soon have more coaches than players ffs.

[breakdown]

I think it’s a poor decision . Really any type of coach should go somewhere away from their team and cut their teeth, trust themselves and go develop , I don’t get this “he is a brill defence coach “ bit at all.

I am prepared to be wrong on this, but I don’t think I am.

So what’s Malones new title, was he not Defensive Coach, Skills Coach, Analyst and chief coffee maker.

We are just doing the same all over again.

Disagree Kofi

Plenty of coaches go straight in from where they played. Townsend started at Borders (albeit a massive step down from Ulster) and Cullen and I think Girvan Dempsey started at Leinster. Jones has done the same as Payne and Munster was Flannery's first rugby coaching job. Geordan Murphy over at Leicester as well. None of those guys you would say are poor coaches but unlike Clarke, Doak, Malone, they all have proper credentials as opposed to a single European cup win

[Rem99]

Pienaar
Jackson
Trimble
Olding
Payne
Bowe
Piutau

Where have all the ££££££££s gone!!!!

[LegsLikeSausages]

I think it’s a poor decision . Really any type of coach should go somewhere away from their team and cut their teeth, trust themselves and go develop , I don’t get this “he is a brill defence coach “ bit at all.

I am prepared to be wrong on this, but I don’t think I am.

So what’s Malones new title, was he not Defensive Coach, Skills Coach, Analyst and chief coffee maker.

We are just doing the same all over again.

Disagree Kofi

Plenty of coaches go straight in from where they played. Townsend started at Borders (albeit a massive step down from Ulster) and Cullen and I think Girvan Dempsey started at Leinster. Jones has done the same as Payne and Munster was Flannery's first rugby coaching job. Geordan Murphy over at Leicester as well. None of those guys you would say are poor coaches but unlike Clarke, Doak, Malone, they all have proper credentials as opposed to a single European cup win

Rob Baxter.

The defence rests, m’lud.

[kingofthehill]

Is Malone gone? Are we getting a new skills coach?

Ruan skills coach confirmed

Don’t think it’s happening this year.



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[stickinout]

Has there been an official statement from UR or the FIRFU to inform us that Payne has retired? Did i miss that one?

[Lurgan Lad]

Has there been an official statement from UR or the FIRFU to inform us that Payne has retired? Did i miss that one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44279099

[UlsterNo9]

Has there been an official statement from UR or the FIRFU to inform us that Payne has retired? Did i miss that one?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/44279099

http://ulsterrugby.com/news/17354.php#.Wwv6cSAh2Uk

[Dharper]

Olding to brive on a 2 yr deal signed by Jeremy Davidson. Great news. One down one to go.

[UlsterNo9]

Olding to brive on a 2 yr deal signed by Jeremy Davidson. Great news. One down one to go.

[Snipe Watson]

I think it’s a poor decision . Really any type of coach should go somewhere away from their team and cut their teeth, trust themselves and go develop , I don’t get this “he is a brill defence coach “ bit at all.

I am prepared to be wrong on this, but I don’t think I am.

So what’s Malones new title, was he not Defensive Coach, Skills Coach, Analyst and chief coffee maker.

We are just doing the same all over again.

I'd agree with this. Filling in as defence coach for a few months when still technically a player is not the same as taking the post full time. It could be said that he was doing a few months as an intern and it went really well so the powers that be know what they're getting. It is taking a big chance, he's no Ruan Pienaar after all.
The flip side of that is that Mark McCall was great as Solly's assistant fresh from retiring as a player. His problems only emerged when he became head coach and the different relationship needed did not work. It could work and I really hope it does.

[shamalicious]

I'm happy with this. He is incredibly well spoken of by players in the Ulster and Ireland set-ups for his influence and leadership. I have faith.

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[shamalicious]

Plus the fact that he's being brought in to shadow the Ireland coaching team is a sign they see potential in him, possibly with a view to have him involved when Farrell goes.

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[Snipe Watson]

Plus the fact that he's being brought in to shadow the Ireland coaching team is a sign they see potential in him, possibly with a view to have him involved when Farrell goes.

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Jared was viewed by Schmidt as a crucial part of his defensive system.
I feel he is part of the Schmidtisation of Ulster and you are going to see Ulster play similar patterns to Ireland in defence particularly. the gospel according to Joe and Andy.