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Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:10 am
by justinr73
As long as that means he isn't called upon to do any more interviews....

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:15 am
by ColinM
You tell us Gerry, but he wasn't 'thee analyst' as you suggest

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:24 am
by Gerald the Mole
ColinM wrote:You tell us Gerry, but he wasn't 'thee analyst' as you suggest
okay who was the analyst in charge of him ? I cant recall any :roll:

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:31 am
by ColinM
Gerald the Mole wrote:
ColinM wrote:You tell us Gerry, but he wasn't 'thee analyst' as you suggest
okay who was the analyst in charge of him ? I cant recall any :roll:
He's been given a fancier title in respect of his analysis role in lieu of being stripped of his role in respect of skills coaching. I for one don't give a feck what his title is, but in my humble opinion Soper brings a lot more to the table in respect of skills coaching than Malone did or would have = net positive.

Is Malone going to be running more effective analysis with his new free time? I'll suggest maybe not but he no longer has somewhere to hide and with analysis as his only function is easier to replace.

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:38 pm
by BR
We're getting all hung up on job titles again.

Let's see who actually does what and if, as a collective, it works.

Wrt experience not being important. Current form is all very well when things are going well. It's when problems arise (and they will) that experience counts.

Some 22 year old out of Uni could probably do my job* when things are ticking over nicely, it's when things start to unravel that my 30 years of experience kicks in and I earn my corn.

*actually they couldn't, but if they'd done a 1980s degree course, they could have a fair stab at it.

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:50 pm
by Russ
BR wrote:We're getting all hung up on job titles again.

Let's see who actually does what and if, as a collective, it works.

Wrt experience not being important. Current form is all very well when things are going well. It's when problems arise (and they will) that experience counts.

Some 22 year old out of Uni could probably do my job* when things are ticking over nicely, it's when things start to unravel that my 30 years of experience kicks in and I earn my corn.

*actually they couldn't, but if they'd done a 1980s degree course, they could have a fair stab at it.
Bet I could do it

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Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:52 pm
by BR
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:We're getting all hung up on job titles again.

Let's see who actually does what and if, as a collective, it works.

Wrt experience not being important. Current form is all very well when things are going well. It's when problems arise (and they will) that experience counts.

Some 22 year old out of Uni could probably do my job* when things are ticking over nicely, it's when things start to unravel that my 30 years of experience kicks in and I earn my corn.

*actually they couldn't, but if they'd done a 1980s degree course, they could have a fair stab at it.
Bet I could do it

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Unbridled self-confidence will only get you so far, Russ. Experience would tell you that.

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:53 pm
by Russ
BR wrote:
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:We're getting all hung up on job titles again.

Let's see who actually does what and if, as a collective, it works.

Wrt experience not being important. Current form is all very well when things are going well. It's when problems arise (and they will) that experience counts.

Some 22 year old out of Uni could probably do my job* when things are ticking over nicely, it's when things start to unravel that my 30 years of experience kicks in and I earn my corn.

*actually they couldn't, but if they'd done a 1980s degree course, they could have a fair stab at it.
Bet I could do it

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Unbridled self-confidence will only get you so far, Russ. Experience would tell you that.
More experience in my left hoof

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Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:54 pm
by BR
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:We're getting all hung up on job titles again.

Let's see who actually does what and if, as a collective, it works.

Wrt experience not being important. Current form is all very well when things are going well. It's when problems arise (and they will) that experience counts.

Some 22 year old out of Uni could probably do my job* when things are ticking over nicely, it's when things start to unravel that my 30 years of experience kicks in and I earn my corn.

*actually they couldn't, but if they'd done a 1980s degree course, they could have a fair stab at it.
Bet I could do it

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Unbridled self-confidence will only get you so far, Russ. Experience would tell you that.
More experience in my left hoof

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Course you have.

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:01 pm
by Dave
Am I the only one not getting hung up on a job title?

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:06 pm
by Cornerfleg
No but I'm still wondering if I support The Peoples Front of Judea or The Judean Peoples Front...

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:45 pm
by stickinout
UlsterNo9 wrote:
“Also, as someone who has been a season ticket holder for the past number of years, I’ve always watched the development of players with a keen eye so it’s really exciting that I’ll now have the opportunity to help further that development.”
Love this latest initiative..... was there a season ticket holder email on this...... how do you apply? Picking a season ticket holder to coach the team for a year. I'm next.

All in jest, I think Soper is a considered well thought out appointment.

I'd agree with Snipe, Peel is being harshly judged. So many other facets of a teams performance have to go right in order for a backline to sing.

Was there a stat that showed we had the most clean line breaks in the league..... or was that Cooney who would benefit most from having a former British Lion scrum half coach. Could have imagined this, open to correction.
would that not have been line breaks against us? >ESM Our defence was ka ka last year. All the same, it was our lack of top notch forwards that had us beat last season.

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:04 pm
by Cockatrice
Gerald the Mole wrote:
ColinM wrote:You tell us Gerry, but he wasn't 'thee analyst' as you suggest
okay who was the analyst in charge of him ? I cant recall any :roll:
so Malone is getting promoted into a new role that previously didn't exist that of Head Analysts... as before in his current role he didn't need any supervision/management and now he is his own boss. Understand he got a £20,000 pay rise as well in part because the new Skills Coach is a part-time employee..

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:06 pm
by Dave
Malone out

Re: Dan Soper

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:22 pm
by Cockatrice
Can someone clarify this is a part-time position isn’t it with the individual still undertaking his coaching role at Hinch?

So when Hinch are away playing in AIL does their Coach go with them or fly out to Wales/Scotland/Italy with Ulster... or can we do without skill coaching at match time..

Genuine question because speaking to someOne at UR today and they think it is designed to cover the gap until Dan starts which may not be as soon as some hope..