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Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:22 am
by Kofi Annan
The best person is out there, unfortunately they will pick the right person.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:47 am
by Liz Fraser
BaggyTrousers wrote:It must be a rugby man, nothing is more important. Wise words too from Snipe, when do you ever hear Mick Dawson holding court at Leinster, he's been there twice as long as Slogan & you seldom if ever hear a bloody word out of him.

Finally, I'm afraid Kofi is probably right, he usually is.
But the fact we didn't hear a peep from Shane Logan was the major accusation levelled at him.
To me a CEO is a person who has an eye for picking the best people and putting them in the right positions, letting the get on with it and backing them.
They need to have the minerals to stand up to d4 and the acumen to handle them.
I don't need to hear them or see them but just someone who is not interested in self promotion but only in the interest of the club.
Integrity and trust needs to be established.
I think Ulster should appoint a unicorn.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:38 am
by stickinout
Liz Fraser wrote:
BaggyTrousers wrote:It must be a rugby man, nothing is more important. Wise words too from Snipe, when do you ever hear Mick Dawson holding court at Leinster, he's been there twice as long as Slogan & you seldom if ever hear a bloody word out of him.

Finally, I'm afraid Kofi is probably right, he usually is.
But the fact we didn't hear a peep from Shane Logan was the major accusation levelled at him.
To me a CEO is a person who has an eye for picking the best people and putting them in the right positions, letting the get on with it and backing them.
They need to have the minerals to stand up to d4 and the acumen to handle them.
I don't need to hear them or see them but just someone who is not interested in self promotion but only in the interest of the club.
Integrity and trust needs to be established.
I think Ulster should appoint a unicorn.
May I suggest the individual needs to have a bit of the cute hoorism about them, that i have no doubt, is abundant in the other provinces. The amount of politicking going on down there in D4 would probably put 'Yes Minister' to shame. Do you think the staff of D4 are working for the greater good of Irish rugby or do you think some of their decisions are tainted by their bias for their home province? Would they be put under pressure from the appartachiks in their own province, being an inside man? How many Ulstermen are down there involved with the decisions being made? I'll have to do a bit of digging, can anybody point me in the right direction?

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:50 am
by stickinout
Kofi Annan wrote:The best person is out there, unfortunately they will pick the right person.
Are the powers-to-be going to make the wrong decision again? I assume the "best person" is well known in UR circles and will be knowingly passed over?

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:14 am
by ColinM
Liz Fraser wrote: They need to have the minerals to stand up to d4 and the acumen to handle them.

Plenty about with the minerals to stand up to D4, but not many about with the acumen to get what Ulster needs whilst avoiding alienating themselves and UR even further. This to me is key, maybe we need a mexican with influence :stir:

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:19 am
by Cornerfleg
Mary McAleese for CEO!

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:21 am
by ColinM
Cornerfleg wrote:Mary McAleese for CEO!

We should at least be talking to her

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:06 am
by justinr73
Is there a rugby equivalent of Peter Ridsdale?

He has been tremendous at PNE as, officially, the adviser to the owner (he's still banned from being a Director I believe).

Hit the headlines at Leeds but has clearly amassed a lot of knowledge over the years.

We now have a squad worth millions that was assembled for peanuts and everyone who meets him seems to speak very highly of him.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:15 pm
by Amiga500
UlsterNo9 wrote:New CEO - What do you want
1. A leader Churchill style - not a gormless soft spoken smiler
Aye... lead us right into the proverbial Dardanelles... :banghead:

You employ specialist coaches (and considerable expense) to run the rugby operations. Let them do their job. If you don't trust them to do the job, then remove them and replace them with someone you do trust.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:27 pm
by Rooster
Amiga500 wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:New CEO - What do you want
1. A leader Churchill style - not a gormless soft spoken smiler
Aye... lead us right into the proverbial Dardanelles... :banghead:

You employ specialist coaches (and considerable expense) to run the rugby operations. Let them do their job. If you don't trust them to do the job, then remove them and replace them with someone you do trust.
Hmmmm, that sounds a bit like Logan, get rid of those who might undermine you

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:45 pm
by Amiga500
Rooster wrote:Hmmmm, that sounds a bit like Logan, get rid of those who might undermine you
If I'm gonna have to stand over anyone's performances - then if I don't think they are up to it - I will want them removed.


If Les Kiss had won us the league this year, would this discussion be occurring? Logan appointed head coaches (and coaching teams) over his time here, ultimately his decisions for which he carries the responsibility of failure.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:57 pm
by Rooster
Amiga500 wrote:
Rooster wrote:Hmmmm, that sounds a bit like Logan, get rid of those who might undermine you
If I'm gonna have to stand over anyone's performances - then if I don't think they are up to it - I will want them removed.


If Les Kiss had won us the league this year, would this discussion be occurring? Logan appointed head coaches (and coaching teams) over his time here, ultimately his decisions for which he carries the responsibility of failure.
Yes think he was gone before we saw how bad this season was

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:41 pm
by Setanta
Do Carlsberg do CEOs?

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:58 pm
by Dave
They only make beer.

Re: New CEO - What do you want / who do you want?

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:59 pm
by BaggyTrousers
Dave wrote:They only make beer.
Call that pish beer? :lol: :lol: :lol: