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I listened to radio 4 this morning to gauge how they are reacting to the fallout of this trial. They were discussing what the ECB might conclude from their own review and what action they might take. The questions asked went down the line of: although not guilty and didn't break the law did Stokes bring the game into disrepute from excessive drinking, get into a fight, knocking someone out, etc....

The response was exactly the same as we had towards PJ and SO.

They said that they couldn't possibly impose any sanction as he had been acquitted. They should instead have a chat with him and try to help him. He had already been punished enough because he missed the ashes. Next season is a big year for cricket and they would definitely need him. Even the suggestion of a suspension was ruled out as he could and should challenge that through the courts himself.

They also said there was a document available which clearly sets out the decision tree the jury had to follow to reach their verdict. It seems like they are bending over backwards to ensure he gets fair treatment and continues his career.
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The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
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big mervyn wrote:The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
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BR wrote:
big mervyn wrote:The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
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BR wrote:
big mervyn wrote:The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
Which person involved?
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BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
big mervyn wrote:The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
Which person involved?
The guy knocked out.
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Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
big mervyn wrote:The difference in this case is that they were out on the lash in the middle of an international series. Stokes was vice captain. That would certainly warrant some sort of sanction from the EBC. You could argue that Stokes has been punished enough. Hales on the other hand ...
Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
Which person involved?
The guy knocked out.
If she didn't make a complaint, then nothing changes.
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Stokes DIDN'T rape anybody. Exactly like PJ and SO.
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big mervyn wrote:Stokes DIDN'T rape anybody. Exactly like PJ and SO.
Correct.

Neither did I.
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BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote: Let's not beat around the bush.
The main difference between the cases is one is an affray charge and the other is a rape charge.

We're comparing apples and PCs.
What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
Which person involved?
The guy knocked out.
If she didn't make a complaint, then nothing changes.
Correct.

However there is no feminist outcry.
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Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:What if the person involved in the Stokes incident was a woman?
Which person involved?
The guy knocked out.
If she didn't make a complaint, then nothing changes.
Correct.

However there is no feminist outcry.
I thought it was more common for feminist activists to support those accused of public order offences.
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I thought it was more common for feminist activists to support those accused of public order offences.
They will back the female.
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I thought it was more common for feminist activists to support those accused of public order offences.
They will back the female.
So the co-accused in this (hypothetically altered) case?

No affray. All those charged walk free.
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BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
I thought it was more common for feminist activists to support those accused of public order offences.
They will back the female.
So the co-accused in this (hypothetically altered) case?

No affray. All those charged walk free.
I'm not referring to the case or verdict but the so called public outcry that follows.
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Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
Dave wrote:
BR wrote:
I thought it was more common for feminist activists to support those accused of public order offences.
They will back the female.
So the co-accused in this (hypothetically altered) case?

No affray. All those charged walk free.
I'm not referring to the case or verdict but the so called public outcry that follows.
We all know if Stokes had been videoed in a punch-up with a woman, there would have been a greater outcry and the result of the trial would have been the least if his worries. His image would have been irreplaceably damaged and he'd probably have to go and play cricket in India.
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