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Shoulder to Shoulder

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Dublin4 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:19 pm

I haven't watched BOD's programme on BT sports. God knows how I have avoided it as it seems to be on all the time, being regurgitated over and over.
I can guess what BOD is saying on it. Which is typical of most middle class people down here.
Basically all my life growing up, most Dublin and southern people wanted to stay as far away as possible from Northern Ireland as we felt genuinely unsafe and uncomfortable there, and with both sides. The Falls Road being as bad or worse than the other one.
The instinctive reaction down here was to reach for the off button on the radio or change tv channel asap. My father did that every day in the 1970s... just turn it off. And he did. Gerry Adams and Co were banned from all broadcasting but the reporters were almost as bad in my Dad's opinion.

We were really happy that you played rugby with us as it made us think that there could be a good side to life up there.
We loved Willie John and Trevor Ringland. Why couldn't there be more of them?
If we met you on holidays then we would often be surprised at how normal you could be. I remember running into a dentist and his family from Ballymena at a camp site in Brittany in 1990 and having a great time with them. If our rugby club played up there then we were really welcomed and we reciprocated.

Then Good Friday 1998 happened and we thought "well, that's super. All over now, everyone happy and no need to mention the war..." Then Northern Ireland became really boring to us. I mean really boring as we lost track of the arcane and obscure arguments over how you ran your affairs. It was about as relevant to us as Cork County Council. But people began to venture north and tell everyone it was ok. They didn't feel unsafe. OK, you didn't have great tourist infrastructure but how could you have it?

I imagine BOD as a privileged Blackrock boy has all the stereotypical baggage of somebody who never ventured over there until he made the programme. I still won't watch his show but take these views into account when you do.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:55 pm

Actually BOD did come north with Blackrock College to play Campbell and Inst (and others unnamed) and didn't give it a second thought.

He asked his mammy if she had had any concerns and she admitted that she didn't, although on one occasion when she came up too, she heard some sectarian abuse which was quite shocking.

I don't believe her ...there's never been any sectarian abuse up here. :lol:
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby big mervyn » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:08 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:Actually BOD did come north with Blackrock College to play Campbell and Inst (and others unnamed) and didn't give it a second thought.

He asked his mammy if she had had any concerns and she admitted that she didn't, although on one occasion when she came up too, she heard some sectarian abuse which was quite shocking.

I don't believe her ...there's never been any sectarian abuse up here. :lol:

Did she mean sectarian against the lower orders :scratch:
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Dublin4 » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:27 pm

Blackrock has had a fixture with Methody since the early 20th century. i don't know if they play other Ulster schools.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Deraless » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:31 pm

I've played Blackrock in Dublin.
And probably received more sectarian abuse South/West/North West of the border than here.

But anyway BOD is still a tool.

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby nonplussed » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:35 pm

Dublin4 wrote:Blackrock has had a fixture with Methody since the early 20th century. i don't know if they play other Ulster schools.
I played against BlackRock back in 91, we got our arses handed to us on the pitch, and it was unfriendly off it.

Now I have been back at the club several times since and its been great craic each time.

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Russ » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:05 pm

I hate blackrock

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby 10 or 15 only » Tue Oct 16, 2018 5:35 pm

Where's Blackrock.....?









Hope nobody tells me it's in south Dublin.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby big mervyn » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:07 pm

10 or 15 only wrote:Where's Blackrock.....?









Hope nobody tells me it's in south Dublin.

It's just 'round the corner from Mount Merrion Avenue.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:42 pm

Russ wrote:I hate blackrock

I like the orange coloured Edinburgh Rock.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby big mervyn » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:55 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Russ wrote:I hate blackrock

I like the orange coloured Edinburgh Rock.

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Chris Montez » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:03 pm

I remember coming down to play Wesley College around 89. A team mate called his opposite number a Fenian and got a right smack in the chops for his efforts. No wonder - only since moving here in 2006 have I realised that Wesley is one of the few Prod schools around.
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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Cap'n Grumpy » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:13 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Russ wrote:I hate blackrock

I like the orange coloured Edinburgh Rock.

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby Russ » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:13 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
big mervyn wrote:
Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Russ wrote:I hate blackrock

I like the orange coloured Edinburgh Rock.

Bigót

It dissolves in the mouth ... it doesn't lodge in the throat!
Can you all feck off from quoting me

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Re: Shoulder to Shoulder

Postby big mervyn » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:14 pm

Chris Montez wrote:I remember coming down to play Wesley College around 89. A team mate called his opposite number a Fenian and got a right smack in the chops for his efforts. No wonder - only since moving here in 2006 have I realised that Wesley is one of the few Prod schools around.

Might be a wee clue in the name there >EW
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