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Ulster Squad 2019/20

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Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Columbo » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:13 pm

Getting to that time..

With the 3 academy promotions next year, I believe the following is the senior squad (full & development contracts) status quo:

Prop (9): O'Sullivan - McCall - Warwick - O'Hagan - Herbst - Moore - O'Toole - Kane - Milasinovich
Hooker (4): Best - Herring - Andrew - McBurney
Lock (5): Henderson - O'Connor - Treadwell - Carter (NIQ) - Thompson
Back Row (8): Rea - Ross - Montgomery - Murphy - Reidy - Timoney - Coetzee (NIQ) - Jones
Scrum-half (3): Cooney - Shanahan - Stewart
Out-half (3): Burns - McPhillips - Lowry
Centre (6): Marshall - McCloskey - Curtis - Cave - Addison - Hume
Wing (4): Gilroy - Stockdale - Lyttle - Busby
Full-back (3): Ludik - Nelson - Owens

Total of 45: out-of-contract / rumoured for departure Herbst & Cave (anyone heard for sure?) There must be question marks around Best post-WC, Thompson (hasn't featured at all notwithstanding second row crisis...). Jones & Montgomery haven't made many waves, O'Hagan, Busby, Owens continue to be plagued with injuries.. McFarland has already made inroads into clearing the decks, might there be another half-dozen plus on their way out?

On the other side, Baloucoune and Kernohan mustn't be too far away from promotion to full contract status - might we try to keep Nagle? (may depend on whether Leinster retain Fardy..)

On the NIQ front - just the 2 at the minute.

For me glaring weaknesses are the same as they have been for ages, back row depth, loosehead, half-back depth.
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Dave » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:33 pm

Baloucoune should be signed up ASAP. Surprised he wasn't announced today.

I think the backrow is better than it has been for a long time. Not massive depth but a good first choice with some healthy prospects in behind. The problem is if Marcell isn't fit. With him there you could have a few interchangeable options alongside him.

It sounds like attempts are being made to sign an IQ loosehead. If that doesn't happen perhaps we will be permitted an NIQ. It's not like we are Munster but you never know.

I think Faddes is a done deal.
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Columbo » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:50 pm

Dave wrote:Baloucoune should be signed up ASAP. Surprised he wasn't announced today.

I think the backrow is better than it has been for a long time. Not massive depth but a good first choice with some healthy prospects in behind. The problem is if Marcell isn't fit. With him there you could have a few interchangeable options alongside him.

It sounds like attempts are being made to sign an IQ loosehead. If that doesn't happen perhaps we will be permitted an NIQ. It's not like we are Munster but you never know.

I think Faddes is a done deal.
good point I forgot about him - maybe all the more reason why we might see some fringe back 3 players released I guess..

I think we have a pretty good first choice back row in Reidy, Murphy and Coetzee - and Timoney and Rea aren’t bad, even with a bit of second-season-itis for Nick, but I think that we desperately need more in the tank - particularly given that none of the academy lads seem to be coming through quickly. Bearing in mind that Leinster can rest Ruddock, Conan and van der Flier and play Deegan, Doris and Leavy - and Munster can rest POM, Stander and Cloete and play JOD, TOD and Botha - no disrespect to our lads but it’s a bit of a step down to Ross, Timoney and Jones...

I think another good back row is pretty much a necessity...


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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Dave » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:17 pm

Columbo wrote:
Dave wrote:Baloucoune should be signed up ASAP. Surprised he wasn't announced today.

I think the backrow is better than it has been for a long time. Not massive depth but a good first choice with some healthy prospects in behind. The problem is if Marcell isn't fit. With him there you could have a few interchangeable options alongside him.

It sounds like attempts are being made to sign an IQ loosehead. If that doesn't happen perhaps we will be permitted an NIQ. It's not like we are Munster but you never know.

I think Faddes is a done deal.
good point I forgot about him - maybe all the more reason why we might see some fringe back 3 players released I guess..

I think we have a pretty good first choice back row in Reidy, Murphy and Coetzee - and Timoney and Rea aren’t bad, even with a bit of second-season-itis for Nick, but I think that we desperately need more in the tank - particularly given that none of the academy lads seem to be coming through quickly. Bearing in mind that Leinster can rest Ruddock, Conan and van der Flier and play Deegan, Doris and Leavy - and Munster can rest POM, Stander and Cloete and play JOD, TOD and Botha - no disrespect to our lads but it’s a bit of a step down to Ross, Timoney and Jones...

I think another good back row is pretty much a necessity...


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Agreed. Like I say the quality significantly drops off without Marcell. I'm thinking back to when we literally didn't have one. Diack, an ageing Roger Wilson etc.

Another backrow signing seems unlikely tbh.
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby jean valjean » Wed Feb 20, 2019 10:57 pm

Talk on leinster forum is that deegan might be forced to leave, especially if doris jumps him in the pecking order. If he wants to start in the big games he may have to leave. Would be a nice addition.

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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby SparkyClarky » Wed Feb 20, 2019 11:31 pm

With Our last project sent packing and it being a 5yr stint now, will we even be looking?
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby OldMan » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:46 am

Columbo wrote:Getting to that time..

With the 3 academy promotions next year, I believe the following is the senior squad (full & development contracts) status quo:

Prop (9): O'Sullivan - McCall - Warwick - O'Hagan - Herbst - Moore - O'Toole - Kane - Milasinovich
Hooker (4): Best - Herring - Andrew - McBurney
Lock (5): Henderson - O'Connor - Treadwell - Carter (NIQ) - Thompson
Back Row (8): Rea - Ross - Montgomery - Murphy - Reidy - Timoney - Coetzee (NIQ) - Jones
Scrum-half (3): Cooney - Shanahan - Stewart
Out-half (3): Burns - McPhillips - Lowry
Centre (6): Marshall - McCloskey - Curtis - Cave - Addison - Hume
Wing (4): Gilroy - Stockdale - Lyttle - Busby
Full-back (3): Ludik - Nelson - Owens

Total of 45: out-of-contract / rumoured for departure Herbst & Cave (anyone heard for sure?) There must be question marks around Best post-WC, Thompson (hasn't featured at all notwithstanding second row crisis...). Jones & Montgomery haven't made many waves, O'Hagan, Busby, Owens continue to be plagued with injuries.. McFarland has already made inroads into clearing the decks, might there be another half-dozen plus on their way out?

On the other side, Baloucoune and Kernohan mustn't be too far away from promotion to full contract status - might we try to keep Nagle? (may depend on whether Leinster retain Fardy..)

On the NIQ front - just the 2 at the minute.

For me glaring weaknesses are the same as they have been for ages, back row depth, loosehead, half-back depth.


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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby therealspratt » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:55 am

Forgot Busby was still with us.
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby pwrmoore » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:06 am

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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Dave » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:43 am

I saw a pic of Busby and Luke Marshall taking part in some training wearing medical bibs.
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby UlsterAreBrill » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:27 pm

Has that Saffer prop been announced yet?
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Rooster » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:37 pm

UlsterAreBrill wrote:Has that Saffer prop been announced yet?
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby Columbo » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:45 pm

OldMan wrote:
Columbo wrote:Is Milasinovich a 'done deal'?
hmmm good question actually - I don’t think Ulster have announced it have they? It was in the papers, I reckon it’s solid because if the local papers screw up Ulster usually clarify (eg Kankowski)
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby pip14 » Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:37 am

Faddes was a class act once again this morning! If he has signed for us what a signing we have got :thumright:
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Re: Ulster Squad 2019/20

Postby mea97mb » Fri Feb 22, 2019 10:15 am

pip14 wrote:Faddes was a class act once again this morning! If he has signed for us what a signing we have got :thumright:


Nice break from him here, albeit from a forward pass:
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