Payne- Defensive Genius- Fact or Fiction?

[Cockatrice]

He did look good with the interception and running thru clear as for the pick up and drive from 30 cms he really did butcher that one… but the less said the better.

[Snipe Watson]

I really don't get why Ulster supporters are so quick to badmouth our own player.
There was a lot of inaccurate bull posted about him when he was seen to take Darren's 13 shirt.
He did do a fairly misjudged press conference after being sent off against Saracens, but other than that, he has done nothing to warrant the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board.

[Russ]

I really don't get why Ulster supporters are so quick to badmouth our own player.
There was a lot of inaccurate bull posted about him when he was seen to take Darren's 13 shirt.
He did do a fairly misjudged press conference after being sent off against Saracens, but other than that, he has done nothing to warrant the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board.

Except playing out of position

[Jackie Brown]

It's all the bull that comes with him, like this defensive lynchpin nonsense. We get taken for fools by the PR spin.

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[BaggyTrousers]

I really don't get why Ulster supporters are so quick to badmouth our own player.
There was a lot of inaccurate bull posted about him when he was seen to take Darren's 13 shirt.
He did do a fairly misjudged press conference after being sent off against Saracens, but other than that, he has done nothing to warrant the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board.

Except playing out of position

And having the Swim Team Coach declare that Jared just wanted to be considered a centre and singlehandedly destroyed Johann's chance of signing off a winner, and of course you might consider his rare availability with Ulster whereas he inevitably appears when MexicanJoe calls, an unfortunate clash of tricky Pretty Polly availability & that notorious "tight hammy" which has had a medic or two baffled ................................................... that apart I'm sure he bleeds Ulster.

It is a fact that he has played more for Ireland in the last 15 months than for Ulster, the current count being Ireland 14 Ulster 13 in that period.

Oh yeah ............ the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board ............. unless Andrew Trimble has forced him to read the pish posted hear for a wee laugh, then your hero has been subjected to nothing whatsoever. My best guess is that he is blissfully unaware that he has been moderately rebuked for his sins, listed above.

[Russ]

I asked him on instagram once when he said he was lost in Venice if he was as lost in Venice as he is at 13

Sean Doyle did not take kindly to that one

SD. Legenedary chube reads this board

[Snipe Watson]

I really don't get why Ulster supporters are so quick to badmouth our own player.
There was a lot of inaccurate bull posted about him when he was seen to take Darren's 13 shirt.
He did do a fairly misjudged press conference after being sent off against Saracens, but other than that, he has done nothing to warrant the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board.

Except playing out of position

And having the Swim Team Coach declare that Jared just wanted to be considered a centre and singlehandedly destroyed Johann's chance of signing off a winner, and of course you might consider his rare availability with Ulster whereas he inevitably appears when MexicanJoe calls, an unfortunate clash of tricky Pretty Polly availability & that notorious "tight hammy" which has had a medic or two baffled ................................................... that apart I'm sure he bleeds Ulster.

It is a fact that he has played more for Ireland in the last 15 months than for Ulster, the current count being Ireland 14 Ulster 13 in that period.

Oh yeah ............ the level of scorn he has been subjected to on this board ............. unless Andrew Trimble has forced him to read the pish posted hear for a wee laugh, then your hero has been subjected to nothing whatsoever. My best guess is that he is blissfully unaware that he has been moderately rebuked for his sins, listed above.

Badmouthing him behind his back if just fine then as long as he doesn't hear it. As a stickler for good manners surely you couldn't approve? Whether he reads it or not is largely irrelevant like everything else on this board. My issue is that posters choose to engage in it and why they would want to engage in it.

What Anscombe said is also irrelevant. If a player is told he's playing centre, he plays centre. Not Anscombe's decision, Dublin's.

Tight hamstring? You have heard this from the medics that they are baffled or is it just more speculative tittle tattle? Hamstring injuries are notoriously difficult and slow to fully clear up.

OK he got sent off against Saracens not the first nor the last and whether we would have gone on to win that match never mind win the title is speculation of the highest calibre.

The antagonism aimed towards Jared is largely baseless.

[Russ]

I judge him on his defensive attributes against those he is competing against

Our best defensive 13s

Cave
Marshall
Big gap
Payne

[Snipe Watson]

I judge him on his defensive attributes against those he is competing against

Our best defensive 13s

Cave
Marshall
Big gap
Payne

Wise words Russ, wise words

[big mervyn]

I judge him on his defensive attributes against those he is competing against

Our best defensive 13s

Cave
Marshall
Big gap
Payne

Wise words Russ, wise words

Is Big Gap anything to Big Licence

[Russ]

I judge him on his defensive attributes against those he is competing against

Our best defensive 13s

Cave
Marshall
Big gap
Payne

Wise words Russ, wise words

I'm wise like an owl

[BaggyTrousers]

Tight hamstring? You have heard this from the medics that they are baffled or is it just more speculative tittle tattle? Hamstring injuries are notoriously difficult and slow to fully clear up.

Absolute fact ................though of course, a gentleman never reveals his source.............. or is that journalist? Though to be more accurate, it was more of a "this shyte again" rather than bafflement. You've been helped.

[Snipe Watson]

Tight hamstring? You have heard this from the medics that they are baffled or is it just more speculative tittle tattle? Hamstring injuries are notoriously difficult and slow to fully clear up.

Absolute fact ................though of course, a gentleman never reveals his source.............. or is that journalist? Though to be more accurate, it was more of a "this shyte again" rather than bafflement. You've been helped.

Well in that case, burn the Kiwi clown............

[BaggyTrousers]

Tight hamstring? You have heard this from the medics that they are baffled or is it just more speculative tittle tattle? Hamstring injuries are notoriously difficult and slow to fully clear up.

Absolute fact ................though of course, a gentleman never reveals his source.............. or is that journalist? Though to be more accurate, it was more of a "this shyte again" rather than bafflement. You've been helped.

Well in that case, burn the Kiwi clown............

You may be taking it a little too far ........... he's actually rather good you know. Just seems rather driven towards a particular aspect of his combined duties.

[Snipe Watson]

Tight hamstring? You have heard this from the medics that they are baffled or is it just more speculative tittle tattle? Hamstring injuries are notoriously difficult and slow to fully clear up.

Absolute fact ................though of course, a gentleman never reveals his source.............. or is that journalist? Though to be more accurate, it was more of a "this shyte again" rather than bafflement. You've been helped.

Well in that case, burn the Kiwi clown............

You may be taking it a little too far ........... he's actually rather good you know. Just seems rather driven towards a particular aspect of his combined duties.

OK then; how about good tight boot in the hoop instead?