Bags and fuzzy - I stand by all that I said, not of what others may have thought I said. i.e :-BaggyTrousers wrote:May I congratulate you on a post of profound fecundity - not something, I am sure we can agree, that occurs here with any regularity. My own pish has been boiled.fuzzylogic wrote:He is a decent player no doubt about it, predominantly at 12 however and has only been shunted out to 13 the last few games because Henry Slade is unavailable. He has been second choice to that young guy Sam Hill for the most of the season in his regular position.Unread postby Spiffsson » Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:21 pm
Just watched Tigers/Exeter. Ian Whitten continues his good form. He ran hard and straight, but also showed good footwork and decent enough gas, running in a try from some distance out. He defends well too. He's a better looking all-round 13 than Cave at the moment. Pity we ever let him go, but he has done well in England and fair play to him.
For me, Caves support play, his rugby brain and the way he controls things and takes the heat of PJ are his main attributes, he may not have the gas or strength of Whitten, he is certainly (when not sick) the better player.
As for this... Sorry its you again Spiff
I am sick of seeing Scholes > Stockdale on here and other sites. Its completely ridiculous to compare the two. For starters, Scholes is three years older, he has come through the academy and is now a full time professional, Stockdale is a 19 year old student who trains part time.by Spiffsson » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:02 pm
As for the Scholes move - I do not know what kinds of offers or inducements may have been made to keep him here. Just sorry to lose him. He has a lot of potential and is well ahead of Stockdale. Good luck to him. I hope he does well in Scotland.
Stockdale is also only getting a few £1000 a year as a bursary, Scholes requires a contract and a full time salary to support himself.
Young Stockdale obviously has bags of potential, has been pulled from the Irish U19 squad and given a chance with the first team, he hasnt done anything remarkable, but has certainly not let us down.
Scholes, obviously a good player, but people seem to be getting on like we've just lost a world class player, hes good, he also has stacks of potential but as yet is hardly a prolific try scorer.
Over the last few seasons we have got rid of/let go from the backs, McCrea, Seymour, Gaston, McIlwaine, Cochrane, McKinney, Porter, NOC, Heaney and lets face it, none of them bar maybe Seymour have been any kind of loss, maybe our coaching team arent as stupid as everyone seems to think when it come to releasing young players.
Rant over
I would say however that Spiffer is an unlikely & unfortunate target for our "Oh FFS I'm peeved" spleen venting. Sorry Spiffer, just the wrong place at the wrong time, random nature of the universe type of thing.
As for His Grace, I've blurred vision & one of my less good headaches so cannot find it in me to check previous posts, so I'll just say that if it's me you are referring to on the money issue, I do agree with you about what is at the heart of Scholes in particular moving away. My reference to the parsimonious Scots & the ease with which he might be reengaged is simply that it would not be an issue, should Ulster decide they want him back AND he feels that he will have a part to play here, more than likely that being dependent on the effective demise of T Bowe and maybe the GLU forebye .
. Whitten and Steenson are playing well at Exeter ( Whitten is not exclusively a 12 now, BTW, he has done well at 12/13 and wing for Exeter, mostly 13). Bags, you have stated that you never watch these games and so, understandably, you will not be familiar with their form.
. Whitten is currently in better form than Cave at 13 (this may be mitigated by Cave's illness, of which I know nothing at all. I have no idea what health problems he may have). I am not saying that in the grand scheme of things, and over time, Whitten is the better 13. That would be daft. Just talking about current form. Again - if you never see him play, this would be difficult for you to judge.
. Scholes is well ahead of Stockdale Not talking about potential or age - again just about current form, and yes of course, based on experience, things are heavily weighted towards Scholes (though I do think Scholes has the potential to go farther).
Am I the only poster here who thinks that Stockdale, though large and powerful, has a real lack of gas for a wing and has a ponderous look about him?
Flame away bais!
