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Post by richardt84 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:51 am

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.3926265

Paddy and London Irish could do with the season starting tomorrow to take the sting out of this. In the meantime he is giving meaning to the lives of a bunch of extremely sad individuals who, in the absence of a guilty verdict, want to ruin his life.

Reading comments on Twitter and it’s incredible how many inaccuracies there are about the trial which is fuelling the enthusiasm of these idiots to harass these companies.


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Post by Jackie Brown » Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:37 am

A few snowflakes in the comment section. Don't seem to get the rampant hypocrisy.

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Post by UlsterNo9 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:51 am

Well done Siobhan O'Connor

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/rugby- ... n-16521382
Siobhan O'Connor column: Why Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding were doomed - acquitted of rape or not

Paddy Jackson is now firmly established as the poster boy for male toxicity.

He will never shed the title “misogynistic” as tweets deriding him will be forever online and will haunt him for the rest of his days.

The online movement “I believe her” escalated this week as Diageo pulled their sponsorship from the London Irish team.

The Guinness brand was horrified Jackson – cleared of rape last year – was signed by the squad.

Feminists are still up in arms over the case despite the jury finding him and his co-accused innocent.

Paddy Jackson and Stuart Olding were acquitted of all charges yet the controversial Belfast rape trial last March is still growing legs.

Yes their text exchanges the morning after the sordid threesome were deplorable and yes they acted disrespectfully towards womankind – but they were proven innocent when it came to rape.

Once the public got hold of the text messages the lynch mob
was firmly in place. We’ve virtually stoned Jackson online and we’ve tarred every man with the same brush – potential rapists.

They aren’t. And many women love threesomes. Women watch porn too, we aren’t a race of feeble princesses.

We wanted equality, this means having sex, threesomes and one-night stands, if we so wish and it’s our prerogative.

The way in which the guys disrespected the complainant is forever in the ether and although the jury found Stuart and Paddy did not commit rape, those texts will forever condemn them.

These lads were doomed with or without a conviction.

Jackson, now 27, has been driven from his home and country and almost from his career.

His attitude to women appalled the nation. It wasn’t just feminists who were up in arms, the infamous trial got us all thinking about what future our daughters have with lads like this in the world. But lads talking like Jackson and Olding has been around since the dawn of time and women who enjoy one-night stands is a reality, why can’t we admit this?

We aren’t weak wallflowers when it comes to sex. The #Metoo movement would have you think there are no Sex & the City Samantha Jones-type characters in existence, but there are.

And even our own Love Island hopeful Maura Higgins is flying the flag for sexual liberation.

During the week she said: “Oh my god, they are so f*****g fit, I’m having f***y flutters!” If a bloke said that about their manhood we’d probably call him a rapist.

Women enjoying wild threesomes and hunting down sports stars to bed is nothing new.

Are we to believe the female race is so timid we don’t voluntarily want to bed a famous ace for the kudos?

For years women have been bedding rich men of their own volition but in this era of reverse feminism we are taking victimhood to a new level.

Claiming women are afraid to go out at night in case they’ll be raped is disempowering them and inadvertently making them weaker. You hear from the inner rugby circles women throw themselves at players, so are we to expect their respect?

The Dublin Rape Crisis Centre claimed Jackson’s attitude still stinks when it comes to women and its chief Noeline Blackwell hailed Guinness for disassociating with the team.

After his acquittal last year, Jackson was remorseful, apologising “unreservedly” for engaging in “degrading and offensive” WhatsApp chat about the incident.

Last April he said: “The criticism of my behaviour is fully justified and I know I have betrayed the values of my family and those of the wider public.

“Following the trial I have taken time to reflect with my family on the values that were such an integral part of my upbringing, the most important of which is respect.

“My departure from these values has caused understandable public anger and I am resolutely committed to returning to those principles.”

If Diageo really wanted to do something worthwhile for females why not sponsor the women’s Six Nations and put its money where its mouth is?

Putting the power back into the pitch for female sport would be far more helpful and would prove the brand really does promote girl power.

Lads misbehaving off the pitch is nothing new in rugby circles but throw the word rape into the mix and it’s game over.

Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t get a look in once the R world is used, it’s forever in celluloid.

In a world gone mad with over-the-top feminists, women are perceived as frail beings dodging rapists everywhere we go. Rape is vile, disgusting, inhumane and on par with murder, but the lines of consensual sex have been blurred.

Women have a libido too, we want sex just as much as men so where is the equality in not allowing us to be free sexual beings?

A few vile text messages doesn’t justify a man’s life being over.

Jackson is a scapegoat, a stupid laddish boy who got caught up in a tirade of abominable rhetoric.

His kids will read about that shameful rugby night out and that’s enough of a punishment in my view.
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Post by shamalicious » Sat Jun 15, 2019 2:55 pm

I must stop reading comments on Facebook and Twitter. Not good for the blood pressure.

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Post by Dharper » Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:42 pm

I listened to the interview on the radio. Clearly there are references to the issue that for some it’s too soon for a return for PJ? Clearly LI isn’t in Ireland, and don’t play in the pro14. I found it a bizarre argument.
People can argue this is all about the WhatsApp messages many of which PJ didn’t send as much as they like. For me this is about the trial, & the fact many can’t accept the Verdict. It was 9 weeks of bad PR for the Irfu.

The guy should be able to rebuild his life & career. I’m glad SO is getting on great at Brive. Will either return to Ire?....I seriously doubt it. With so much back talent coming through, UR prob don’t need SO. UR by the sounds of it couldn’t afford PJ financially anyway. With all the tom kite around him at the moment it’d be 2/3 seasons away at best. By which time we may not need him. Hopefully he is given the chance to rebuild.

The above mirror article is bang on the money. Hopefully this can start to be a backlash of opinion, to give the pair of them a fair crack of the whip.

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Post by rumncoke » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:05 pm

Unfortunately there are some who are so far up their own va—-a they would castrate every man in the universe before they would admit the trial was a needless sham, and the court was used to obtain revenge which was only possible using the What’s app messages to destroy the boys reputations .




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Post by Dublin4 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:34 pm

A few points occur to me:

1 The critics were relatively silent when the players headed off to France, and they didn't kick up about LI until Diageo had a brain storm. So what's the objective now? To deprive a man found to be innocent of his right to work? Really, and for how long?
Two years, five years? Forever? Is it ok to play in France but not closer to home, and why? Nobody is objecting to Brive employing Olding. Where is the consistency?

2 Where do the critics, the feminazis and fellow travellers, get the right or the authority to pressurise an employer to break a contract with an employee?

3 Even if you accept, and many don't, that Ulster Rugby and the IRFU had a legitimate interest in deciding whether they could continue to employ a player after his acquittal for reputational or commercial reasons, this does not apply at this remove at all to an employer who is prepared to take on an employee on his own merits.
Even convicted criminals have the right to rehabilitate themselves after their sentence is completed, so why shouldn't somebody who is innocent in the eyes of the law?

4 There is a question of proportionality here which is being totally ignored.

Most rugby fans and members of the wider public who give this any fair consideration must conclude that enough is enough.
Let the man get on with his life.
As I have said before, fair play to the owners of LI for resisting the intimidation.

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Post by Jackie Brown » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:51 pm

Damn right.

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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:02 am

Dublin4 wrote:A few points occur to me:

1 The critics were relatively silent when the players headed off to France, and they didn't kick up about LI until Diageo had a brain storm. So what's the objective now? To deprive a man found to be innocent of his right to work? Really, and for how long?
Two years, five years? Forever? Is it ok to play in France but not closer to home, and why? Nobody is objecting to Brive employing Olding. Where is the consistency?

2 Where do the critics, the feminazis and fellow travellers, get the right or the authority to pressurise an employer to break a contract with an employee?

3 Even if you accept, and many don't, that Ulster Rugby and the IRFU had a legitimate interest in deciding whether they could continue to employ a player after his acquittal for reputational or commercial reasons, this does not apply at this remove at all to an employer who is prepared to take on an employee on his own merits.
Even convicted criminals have the right to rehabilitate themselves after their sentence is completed, so why shouldn't somebody who is innocent in the eyes of the law?

4 There is a question of proportionality here which is being totally ignored.

Most rugby fans and members of the wider public who give this any fair consideration must conclude that enough is enough.
Let the man get on with his life.
As I have said before, fair play to the owners of LI for resisting the intimidation.
Well said D4. :salut:

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Post by Wee Woman » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:35 am

Dublin4 wrote:A few points occur to me:

1 The critics were relatively silent when the players headed off to France, and they didn't kick up about LI until Diageo had a brain storm. So what's the objective now? To deprive a man found to be innocent of his right to work? Really, and for how long?
Two years, five years? Forever? Is it ok to play in France but not closer to home, and why? Nobody is objecting to Brive employing Olding. Where is the consistency?

2 Where do the critics, the feminazis and fellow travellers, get the right or the authority to pressurise an employer to break a contract with an employee?

3 Even if you accept, and many don't, that Ulster Rugby and the IRFU had a legitimate interest in deciding whether they could continue to employ a player after his acquittal for reputational or commercial reasons, this does not apply at this remove at all to an employer who is prepared to take on an employee on his own merits.
Even convicted criminals have the right to rehabilitate themselves after their sentence is completed, so why shouldn't somebody who is innocent in the eyes of the law?

4 There is a question of proportionality here which is being totally ignored.

Most rugby fans and members of the wider public who give this any fair consideration must conclude that enough is enough.
Let the man get on with his life.
As I have said before, fair play to the owners of LI for resisting the intimidation.
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Post by rumncoke » Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:41 am

Of course the only reason Guinness pulled out so publicly was for the exposure .

They have had their name in the papers and on Television more in two days than have had out of sponsoring London Irish for 20 years .

Wonderful what happens when you kick a man when his down .

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Post by Cracker » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:22 pm

Would anyone have stopped drinking Diageo products if they had stayed on as sponsors and Jackson had played. The answer clearly is no.
But as they chickened out of their sponsorship for no valid or justifiable reason they will play the price. A lot of clubs and rugby people are finished with Diageo and even faithful Guinness drinkers are making the sacrifice in protest and moving to other liquid refreshment. Good for them. The more the better.

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