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Post by UlsterNo9 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:36 pm

What really sticks in my craw is that the alleged incident (all parties found not guilty of) happened in the early hours of 28th June 2016, the whats app messages of which Paddy sent one were sent later that same day.

In less than a couple of weeks it will be three years since this happened.

Now Diageo three years later advises Paddy Jackson does not hold the same values as their brand and they are breaking their contract with London Irish.

Do I hold the same values I held three years ago? Do Diageo hold the same values they held three years ago? Who here holds the exact same values they held three years ago? Did he ever hold the values DIageo are accusing him of having?

The article below and statement made clearly highlight that he does not hold these values!

What has Paddy done recently that Diageo are aware of that the rest of us are not that means he does not currently share their values!

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Post by Dharper » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:10 pm

I see LI have avoided any issues by not including PJ in the squad for their away game at Munster. Loose rumour/threat of up to 100 protesters if he featured. That said it’s only a friendly come the 1st competitive game I’d expect them to include him.

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Post by rumncoke » Tue Sep 10, 2019 3:45 pm

I would expect about 10 turn out in protest at LI employing Paddy regardless -- in ignorance of the facts of the case .

Because the alternative faced by the DPP was to charge the claimant ( daughter of a QC ) under section 5(2) of the Criminal Law ACT 1967 -- for wasting police time --6 months jail and £2500 fine .

Because I can think of no case of Rape which has gone to court -- where the only independent witness ( female ) -- stated, before the case going to court, that what she witnessed was in her opinion --consensual and the statements made by claimant - to her friends -- to the doctor and to the police are seriously flawed by inconsistency that the only opinion that could be formed is that her claim to have been raped was false.

If anyone knows of a precedent please inform me.

It might have been avoided had the media not rushed to make her claim public in this instant there were to many celebrities -- ( small c ) her father was too well known and respected, within legal circles, for her identity to remain unknown for long, once the claim entered the public realm.
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Post by Bobbievee » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:50 pm

Not sure all your potential identifying links 're the complainant's family are accurate, but just in case they are........ I would advise avoiding them.

're LI, I believe they are mistaken in not bringing PJ to the Munster game. Perhaps Munster/IRFU asked them not to?
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Post by rumncoke » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:32 am

1/While the identity of the claimant was unknown to me I was reliably inform of her fathers profession ( by non denial confirmation ) -- her father's name was never given to me .

2-- I had also heard " spit roast" was rumoured ( the informant not that reliable and sure of his facts )

3-- and that there was a female witness who claimed what she saw was consensual. ( the informant in this instance was sure of his facts )

All prior to the the case going to court.

The court case was always going to be a mud slinging affair -- I didn't realise before the case there was so much mud available all fodder to social media.
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Post by Jackie Brown » Fri Sep 20, 2019 6:29 pm

PJ on the bench tomorrow v Gloucester. :thumright:
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