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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Bart S » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:21 pm

Neill_M wrote:Latest unofficial conferences for 2019/20.

https://twitter.com/simonrug/status/1138818178082062336

Conference A

Glasgow (Scotland 1)
Leinster (Ireland 2)
Ulster (Ireland 3)
Ospreys (Wales 1)
Dragons (Wales 4)
Zebre (Italy 2)
Cheetahs (South Africa 1)

Conference B

Edinburgh (Scotland 2)
Munster (Ireland 1)
Connacht (Ireland 4)
Cardiff Blues (Wales 2)
Scarlets (Wales 3)
Benetton (Italy 1)
Southern Kings (South Africa 2)
I assumed the number after each team was their ranking in the respective country but if that's the case, how could Munster be ahead of Leinster? :scratch:

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:37 pm

Bart S wrote:
Neill_M wrote:Latest unofficial conferences for 2019/20.

https://twitter.com/simonrug/status/1138818178082062336

Conference A

Glasgow (Scotland 1)
Leinster (Ireland 2)
Ulster (Ireland 3)
Ospreys (Wales 1)
Dragons (Wales 4)
Zebre (Italy 2)
Cheetahs (South Africa 1)

Conference B

Edinburgh (Scotland 2)
Munster (Ireland 1)
Connacht (Ireland 4)
Cardiff Blues (Wales 2)
Scarlets (Wales 3)
Benetton (Italy 1)
Southern Kings (South Africa 2)
I assumed the number after each team was their ranking in the respective country but if that's the case, how could Munster be ahead of Leinster? :scratch:
More points over the 21 games in the regular season.

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by UlsterNo9 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:43 pm

Combined Table based on last season league points, puts Munster above Bart

Glasgow - 81
Munster - 77
Leinster - 76
Ulster - 63
Connacht - 61
Ospreys - 58
Benetton - 57
Cardiff Blues - 54
Scarlets - 52
Edinburgh - 51
Cheetahs - 46
Dragons - 26
Southern Kings - 22
Zebre - 19
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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by UlsterNo9 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:57 pm

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rug ... t-16077439

This article, albeit older had Ireland 1 and 4 in Conference A with Ireland 2 and 3 in Conference B :scratch:
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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by solidarity » Thu Jun 13, 2019 1:57 pm

UlsterNo9 wrote:Combined Table based on last season league points, puts Munster above Bart

Glasgow - 81
Munster - 77
Leinster - 76
Ulster - 63
Connacht - 61
Ospreys - 58
Benetton - 57
Cardiff Blues - 54
Scarlets - 52
Edinburgh - 51
Cheetahs - 46
Dragons - 26
Southern Kings - 22
Zebre - 19
A few obvious observations:

All four Irish sides in the top 5
Only one Welsh side in the top half
Bottom 3 a long way adrift and top 3 a fair bit ahead.
Good to see Benetton making progress; hope it's not a false dawn.
Both Saffers in bottom 4. Any hope of better things to come from them?
Only a dozen points covering places 4 to 10 so looking like many matches are pretty competitive.

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by justinr73 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:26 am

Do we know when the fixtures are out?

Given the late start, we should at least get a bit more notice to plan our travel arrangements this year.

Or not....!

A game in South Africa during England’s cricket tour would be good.

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:48 am

justinr73 wrote:Do we know when the fixtures are out?

Given the late start, we should at least get a bit more notice to plan our travel arrangements this year.

Or not....!

A game in South Africa during England’s cricket tour would be good.
July 24 last year for the fixtures with the 1st game 1st weekend of September. 3 week delay for 2019/20.

Only likely to have 1 game in South Africa this year if the pattern is followed. Would be v the Cheetahs if the new rumoured conferences are correct.

NH sides tend not to tour in SA during Dec/Jan due it being too hot. Unsure when the cricket tour is, don’t really follow it.

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:27 pm

Jason Tovey rejoining Cardiff Blues for 2019/20.

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Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:43 pm

Conferences confirmed for 2019/20 and 2020/21:

Leinster, Glasgow, Ulster, Ospreys, Dragons, Zebre, Cheetahs

Munster, Connacht, Cardiff, Scarlets, Edinburgh, Benetton, Kings

Ulster and Ospreys probably fighting for 3rd. B wide open bar the Kings.
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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Dave » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:45 pm

WTF? The three best teams in one group?

Who did Munster shag?
I have my own tv channel, what have you got?

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by UlsterNo9 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:16 pm

What's also interesting is that this is now locked in for the next two seasons, therefore where you finish this season coming will be irrelevant as far as conference split the season after.

When are fixtures released?
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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Mon Jun 17, 2019 4:20 pm

UlsterNo9 wrote:What's also interesting is that this is now locked in for the next two seasons, therefore where you finish this season coming will be irrelevant as far as conference split the season after.

When are fixtures released?
No date yet, was July 24 last year but the season starts 3 weeks later in 2019/20

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Shan » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:21 am

Dave wrote:WTF? The three best teams in one group?

Who did Munster shag?
The powers that be can only use the league table standings to determine the placings. They are not aware for example that Ulster have leapfrogged Munster into third place overall. Indeed nobody outside this forum is aware of that.
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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:30 am

Shan wrote:
Dave wrote:WTF? The three best teams in one group?

Who did Munster shag?
The powers that be can only use the league table standings to determine the placings. They are not aware for example that Ulster have leapfrogged Munster into third place overall. Indeed nobody outside this forum is aware of that.
Munster indeed did have the most points of any Irish province over the 21 games. Leinster played the 2nd XV from March onwards as the rest of the sides including Ulster made Conference B last year so competitive :lol:

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Re: Pro 14 2019/20

Post by Dave » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:55 pm

With an easy conference the standings are not a true reflection of how things will be next year. Ulster will amass a huge points tally next year with Joe not selecting our players for the RWC and new signings/players back from injury. We will pi$h the pro 14.
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