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Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:17 am
by justinr73
It looks like it.

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 9:39 am
by Dave
The main lie is that money would be saved. Boris repeated the brexit lies several times after the referendum. Even Farage, Gove, Rees-Mogg were backing away from it. Johnson is too used to lying. He was sacked for lying in 2004 to the then tory leader, Michael Howard, from a shadow cabinet position. How anyone can afford him a shred of credibility or trust is beyond me..

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:28 am
by rumncoke
The amount of the saving is debatable and personally I doubt if money was a major factor why those who voted Brexit did so.

Since as you have pointed out few if any understand the finances of the EU since the Accounts have never been signed by anyone .

As some idiot into to-days BT states_===when the Uk is currently about to create political and economic barriers against Europe — utter bullshit - the barriers are those created by the EU not GB — the EU is an organisation which excludes free trade outside the EU . Thus the barrier is not created by GB but is an existing barrier created the EU.

By Brexit GB places it’s self outside that barrier .


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Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 10:31 am
by mikerob
There is no debate that “We send the EU £350 million a week” was a lie.

Were you fooled by it Rum?

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:56 pm
by Gary
Rummy, I suggest you try to remember that Boris Johnston is a liar and that the Daily Mail, the Sun, the Express, Telegraph cannot be trusted when writing about the EU. The idea that the EU accounts have never been signed off by the auditors is one of the big lies created by Eurosceptics to back up their argument. Basically it is total horlix. The accounts have been signed off every year since 2007.

Have a wee look at https://infacts.org/mythbusts/auditors- ... -accounts/

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 10:53 pm
by rumncoke
Come back when you find out the difference between a Budget and a set of Accounts .

Think in terms of your wife’s house keeping allowance — what it’s meant to be spent on and what is spent on may not be one and the same thing .


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Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:47 pm
by Gary
Rummy, if you read your own post you will see that you were talking about the accounts never being signed off. Where did either you or I mention budget? And I remind you again - the accounts have been signed off in spite of what the motley collection of Brexiteer liars claim.

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:44 am
by rumncoke
What has been signed off is the EU Budget not the EU Accounts . EU moneys are mostly accounted for by individual governments -- some are trust worthy--- others less so and as the Club gets bigger then trust is harder to find.

But the idea that people voted for Brexit because of 'savings "to be achieved is the real myth .Most have very little knowledge of Government finance --- other than Government expenditure never decreases and taxes never fall in total the only thing which changes is the way money is raised.

The media and government ( central and local ) have an army of people dedicate to complaining and insisting that the worlds problems would not exist if money was available -- for--- Education, Law Enforcement, Health Care, Housing,War on Poverty-- nothing improves -- their problems are bigger .

Poeple have forgotten they came into the world with nothing and will leave with nothing -- all Expectation and Rights are a myth and depended on the goodwill of others -- do I trust you to come to my aid if I was in gutter drunk on a Saturday night -- you would be like 99% of the population and walk on by on the other side of the road.

The only Right any government exercises is the Right to Tax and other Rights are created to justify that Right

Re: A little bit of politics folks`

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:53 pm
by Gary
Wrong Rummy, but keep telling the lie long enough and people, the stupid ones, will believe it.