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Cornerfleg wrote:Doakball, as I see it anyway, is more of a last minute idea than a game plan that can be worked out. It includes attention to hoofing and spectating at a previously uncharted level and developing a culture of total ambivalence. Opposition know how to overcome it as they know exactly what's coming their way. It remains to be seen if this level of ineptitude can be sustained over a number of seasons with Ulster.
If it was player mutiny that outed Anscombe, what are their thoughts of Doak running the ship?Snipe Watson wrote:Cornerfleg wrote:Doakball, as I see it anyway, is more of a last minute idea than a game plan that can be worked out. It includes attention to hoofing and spectating at a previously uncharted level and developing a culture of total ambivalence. Opposition know how to overcome it as they know exactly what's coming their way. It remains to be seen if this level of ineptitude can be sustained over a number of seasons with Ulster.
Rumrumncoke wrote:It depends on what you define as the job of the coach . It also depends on whether you think he the head coach works in isolation .
I don't see the a uniform development of something you identify as Schmidtball . Munster have reverted to what Munster do best which is an aggressive 10 man game . Leinster are in a rudderless mix of post BoD and development hoping the return of Sexton will bring direction and refocus to a changing and developing back line . Boss Redden and D'Arcy are all due to retire within 24 -36 months Madigan lacks the vision and skills to inspire the back line playing out half
Ulster 's major problem is the reliance on an ageing and or injury prone back row and while having possibly the back line with greatest potential without Ruan and the ablility to successfully gain the necessary field position the back line is a blunt knife .
Ruan has only started two games and both starts have lacked a full fit back row in games influenced by bad weather .
Ulster 's season which looked promising went down hill as injuries to key players mounted week by week , none of the injuries being the sort resulting in a week on the benches all have been the sort resulting in absence for months not a couple of weeks similarly not only have injuries been to key players but to the players you would consider to be their alternatives .
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But there lies the problem. I agree completely with the sentiment. I have missed a couple of games this year and can't say I care. The games that I have gone too have been soulless - both team display and crowd support. Even at the Toulon game there was a very subdued atmosphere pre match for a European tie.nonplussed wrote:It's all ballix. As a seasoned ST holder I have missed a couple of games this season and not felt that I've missed anything. This is a concern, I can't put my finger on why but it's either the shat fest served up on the pitch week in week out or maybe Ravenhill has lost it's soul somewhere. I will renew basically cos the missus buys me the ST each year so can have the house to herself for 14 nights a year to do whatever/whoever she fancies
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mikerob wrote:Schmidtball for Ireland doesn't seem to be the same thing as Schmidtball was for Leinster.
I thought it was precisely because he doesn't have the same amount of time with the Ireland players that a provincial coach has with his players, the Ireland gameplan needs to be a lot simpler.
So with Leinster, Schmidt could spend an inordinate amount of time on basic skills like passing, and that translated into Leinster's style of play. But with Ireland, perhaps the players from the other provinces weren't at the same level that Leinster were at their peak, and after 2 years of MOC, even the standard of the Leinster players is slipping.
Schmidt doesn't have the time as Ireland coach to get their passing as good as it can be, so his focus is on other basics like defence, set piece, the break down and a simple game when in possession involving a lot of kicking and heavily rehearsed power plays.
I don't think this is fair, or at least completely fair.lovesthehardground wrote:
Don't get me wrong. As a professional organisation UR must look to make a profit. However any successful business will invest in R&D to maintain their success. IN UR terms this R&D is player development/new signings and squad development. In this area UR has catastrophically failed. But until the bottom line is threatened this will not change.
Genuine question, and I may have misunderstood the inference above, but is it fair to Leinster under Schmitd to box them as low risk?BuckRogers wrote:Due to its low risk and precise nature it is very hard to counteract.
I read a quote from Mike Gibson once, something along the lines of "the great players are those that do the basics the best, kick the best pass the best, tackle the best, step the best, run the best... because everything else comes from the basics". Surely the point about Schmitd's focus on the basics is not that it limits you to basic (low risk) play, but rather the opposite, it gives you the armory to construct great attacking play?BuckRogers wrote:The focus on doing the basics to an exceptionally high level means that the emphasis moves onto the opponents to be better than you at this. The only people capable of this consistently? ABs and Boks and of course a team putting in an exceptional performance.
I'd love to see ulster adopt it tbh but I don't think our coaches are good enough to implement it.
CT to quote the main man, we need an average gate of 9K per game to be in profit, his words not mineCockatrice wrote:LTHG.... My understanding is that UR need 12,000 to break even so that day may come. Due to the Saracens/ Season Ticket package last year they are riding on the crest of a wave which is dipping slighty. I have noticed more than a few empty seats at some recent matches and whilst we buy up all the beanies for Xmas prezzies I see less a rush for tickets next year.. Ravenhill has lost its soul but then it's Kingspan now.. A 10 year deal that may change if reported conditions are correct that it's dependant on performance on the pitch and playing at the top table of Europe.
Are you starting to make stuff up now too CT? Or just giving it anotherCockatrice wrote:LTHG.... My understanding is that UR need 12,000 to break even so that day may come. Due to the Saracens/ Season Ticket package last year they are riding on the crest of a wave which is dipping slighty. I have noticed more than a few empty seats at some recent matches and whilst we buy up all the beanies for Xmas prezzies I see less a rush for tickets next year.. Ravenhill has lost its soul but then it's Kingspan now.. A 10 year deal that may change if reported conditions are correct that it's dependant on performance on the pitch and playing at the top table of Europe.
?Well the deal is 10 years but can be renegotiated after 5 I think was the original, clauses on number of matches etc are bound to be somewhere in the full details since the PRO12 was in a bit of turmoil when it was negotiatedSnipe Watson wrote:Are you starting to make stuff up now too CT? Or just giving it anotherCockatrice wrote:LTHG.... My understanding is that UR need 12,000 to break even so that day may come. Due to the Saracens/ Season Ticket package last year they are riding on the crest of a wave which is dipping slighty. I have noticed more than a few empty seats at some recent matches and whilst we buy up all the beanies for Xmas prezzies I see less a rush for tickets next year.. Ravenhill has lost its soul but then it's Kingspan now.. A 10 year deal that may change if reported conditions are correct that it's dependant on performance on the pitch and playing at the top table of Europe.
