Well it is, but I'm not entirely sure that's the reason why, I swear until recently our academy was smaller than Leinster et all. Disappointing that it didn't work out for Thompson, thought he had a lot of potential, certainly more than Donnan.kingofthehill wrote:Thompson,McGrath and Lagan I think have been cut from academy.
The guys coming through must be seen as better prospects.
It's interesting that there are more in the Ulster academy than the other provinces. Is it because the club rugby in Ulster is poor?
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Numbers are pretty similar academy wise I think.kingofthehill wrote:Thompson,McGrath and Lagan I think have been cut from academy.
The guys coming through must be seen as better prospects.
It's interesting that there are more in the Ulster academy than the other provinces. Is it because the club rugby in Ulster is poor?
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Because we're flooding the Academy in the hope that one of them turns out to be half decent.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
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Hmm, no they definitely have more than one player per position, they've 4 or so centres in there right now.ruckover wrote:Because we're flooding the Academy in the hope that one of them turns out to be half decent.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
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My apologies, you're right. Still, one player per position does still sound like a good idea!therealspratt wrote:Hmm, no they definitely have more than one player per position, they've 4 or so centres in there right now.ruckover wrote:Because we're flooding the Academy in the hope that one of them turns out to be half decent.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
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Would have to rely on our talent identification being absolutely spot on, which I don't think we have the track record for. Personally I think the bigger the academy the better.ruckover wrote:My apologies, you're right. Still, one player per position does still sound like a good idea!therealspratt wrote:Hmm, no they definitely have more than one player per position, they've 4 or so centres in there right now.ruckover wrote:Because we're flooding the Academy in the hope that one of them turns out to be half decent.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
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thats not what leinster do though...ruckover wrote:Because we're flooding the Academy in the hope that one of them turns out to be half decent.
I like Leinster's system of one Academy player for each position. Focus all your time on them, not divide it up between 20 props that probably won't make it.
3 Props
1 Hooker
2 Second Rows
4 Backrows
2 Scrumhalves
2 Outhalves
3 Centres
4 Wings
2 Fullbacks
Thats the breakdown of their academy this season.
Next season it will probably look like this:
3 Props
2 Hookers
2 Second Rows
4 Backrows
2 Scrumhalves
2 Outhalves
3 Centres
3 Wings
2 Fullbacks
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Ulsters incoming academy class probably look like this:
2 props
2 second rows
3 backrows
1 scrumhalf
2 outhalves
2 centres
1 fullback
2 props
2 second rows
3 backrows
1 scrumhalf
2 outhalves
2 centres
1 fullback
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Angus Curtis and who at outhalf? Don't reckon they'll bring Lowry in, too small.
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don't get me started with too small.therealspratt wrote:Angus Curtis and who at outhalf? Don't reckon they'll bring Lowry in, too small.
If your good enough, your good enough.
Lowry is no smaller than what Jackson was. His skill set is superb,his kicking is superb (albeit he doesn't kick goals in the Inst/Ulster 19 team but doesn't mean he can't), lightening fast and my word does he throw himself into tackles-hard as nails. Compare him to Herron, McKinney etc and then make a educated decision.
I really hate the thought of a young fella with bags of talent not getting academy because we signed an Saffer who 'may' turn out be decent.
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Totally agree...I have watched Lowry for 7 years...he's different gravy. So many back rows have thought 'here's a soft touch' only to be knocked back a few yards in the first contact.
I didn't watch Jackson at schoolboy level so can't draw a comparison.
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Stewart (current Irish U20 scrum half) is eligible for U20 again next year also. Presumably he will make the team ahead of O'Donnell on experience alone
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Depends what you want. Hopefully both will get a run out to prove their worth.thewaterboy wrote:Stewart (current Irish U20 scrum half) is eligible for U20 again next year also. Presumably he will make the team ahead of O'Donnell on experience alone
Some talented boys coming through. Exciting times for Ulster if they treat them all right.
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The 9/10/12&13/15 (O'Donnell / Lowry / Hume / Finnegan) axis has been a revelation...they just know what the other one is going to do.kingofthehill wrote:Depends what you want. Hopefully both will get a run out to prove their worth.thewaterboy wrote:Stewart (current Irish U20 scrum half) is eligible for U20 again next year also. Presumably he will make the team ahead of O'Donnell on experience alone
Some talented boys coming through. Exciting times for Ulster if they treat them all right.
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Yep all those boys plus Reid should go straight into academy.ChuckleBrothers wrote:The 9/10/12&13/15 (O'Donnell / Lowry / Hume / Finnegan) axis has been a revelation...they just know what the other one is going to do.kingofthehill wrote:Depends what you want. Hopefully both will get a run out to prove their worth.thewaterboy wrote:Stewart (current Irish U20 scrum half) is eligible for U20 again next year also. Presumably he will make the team ahead of O'Donnell on experience alone
Some talented boys coming through. Exciting times for Ulster if they treat them all right.
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Dunleavy, Clarke, O'Toole and Dalton are the others.
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