Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Fancy a pint? Join the crai­c and non-rugby topics here.

Moderator: Moderators

War of attrition
Novice
Posts: 32
Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:01 pm

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by War of attrition »

I know blame Christian brothers

Sent from my WAS-LX1A using Tapatalk
User avatar
Dave
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 24791
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:27 pm

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Dave »

I blame Christianity for most things.
I have my own tv channel, what have you got?
User avatar
Shan
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 11524
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Limerick

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Shan »

Russ wrote:Define victim
Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
Last edited by Shan on Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
User avatar
Shan
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 11524
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Limerick

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Shan »

Dave wrote:Victim blaming is words spoken by people.

This is actual lives ruined by corruption in the CPS.
Of course - I was answering a particular point Baggy made.

Lives have always been ruined by various elements within the British legal and law enforcement agencies. What's so special this time?
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
User avatar
Shan
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 11524
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Limerick

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Shan »

War of attrition wrote:
War of attrition wrote:In the name of fair play 2 young women in the corrupt South 1 14 the other 24 hadn't a chance to blacken good chaps names there desd

Sent from my WAS-LX1A using Tapatalk
Dead apology spelling error

Sent from my WAS-LX1A using Tapatalk
Hint - Posting in English tends to help to get your point across on forums which are populated by native English speakers.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
User avatar
Russ
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 28295
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:27 pm
Location: Looking for George North's defence

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Russ »

Shan wrote:
Russ wrote:Define victim
Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
You've made sweeping generalisations. Someone in a recent trial was called a victim when it was clear to everybody she was not a victim

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
User avatar
Dave
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 24791
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:27 pm

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Dave »

Shan wrote:
Dave wrote:Victim blaming is words spoken by people.

This is actual lives ruined by corruption in the CPS.
Of course - I was answering a particular point Baggy made.

Lives have always been ruined by various elements within the British legal and law enforcement agencies. What's so special this time?
The scale of the problem.
I have my own tv channel, what have you got?
User avatar
pwrmoore
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 11885
Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 8:51 am
Location: East Belfast

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by pwrmoore »

Russ wrote:
Shan wrote:
Russ wrote:Define victim
Read the post I responded to. If you can't understand it let me know and I'll try to help.
You've made sweeping generalisations. Someone in a recent trial was called a victim when it was clear to everybody she was not a victim

Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk
Don't be a dick russ. That is quite obviously not what Shan is referring to. A man of your claimed intellect and education shouldn't have much trouble understanding that.
Paul.

C'mon Ulsterrrrrrrrr! :red:
rumncoke
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 7954
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:39 pm

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by rumncoke »

When the rape is an allegation the person should be defined as claimant - if the allegation is up held — then as a victim of rape .

Both the claimant and defendant can be victims of the legal system

In the Jackson - Olding affair both might be considered victims of the system .

The claimant due to the number of hours in the stand — and the defendants due to the fact the case should never have gone to court —

The testimony of the witness alone ensured it would never have been upheld .

The claimants versions of events were never plausible making it obvious to any unprejudiced listener that the allegation was false . Despite the fact that the councils for the defendants treated her like a delicate flower and never tried to establish and have her admit why she was crying in the taxi .

Nor did they ever ask her why she failed to tell Rory Harrison what had happened was non consensual in the taxi but 7 -8 hours later after she had made the claims to her friends .

The episode with Rory Best was sufficient to ensure any guilty verdict ( if any moron thought that was possible ) would have had assured successful appeal — due to interference with witnesses - All current members of the Ulster or Ireland squads were told not to testify and new character witnesses had to be allowed by the Court - the case could very easily have been thrown out of court at that time for a total miscarriage of justice .





Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Within this carapace of skepticism there lives an optimist
User avatar
ColinM
Lord Chancellor
Posts: 7858
Joined: Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:11 pm

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by ColinM »

Did the PSNI ever get reprimanded for calling the young lady complainant a victim?

Sent from my Swift 2 Plus using Tapatalk
User avatar
Shan
Rí­ na Cúige Uladh
Posts: 11524
Joined: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:55 pm
Location: Limerick

Re: Is the CPS fit for purpose?

Post by Shan »

pwrmoore wrote:
Don't be a dick russ. That is quite obviously not what Shan is referring to. A man of your claimed intellect and education shouldn't have much trouble understanding that.
Spot on Paul. I don't think Russ is capable of understanding the concept of replying to a particular post.

I never knew he claimed any intellect. If it is real he manages to hide it very well. :D
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
Post Reply