UlsterAreBrill wrote:Dave wrote:jean valjean wrote:Freedom of religion does equate to freedom to discriminate against. I suspect the likes of Lynas would happily support the barring of gay folk from a b&b should the owner wish. Has a Christian in this country ever been barred from receiving a service due to their faith? Absolutely not, and rightly so.
Why is no-one taking offence at jesus being depicted as a white bearded man?
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I thought it was just a man walking out of a small door. Lynas didn't even question that assumption. Let's not forget that Christian's are currently preventing equal rights for gay/lesbian people to marry. Yet other Christian's are on here crying for equal rights because of a few memes.
I thought it was just a man walking out of a small door.
Enough with that nonsense. Clearly, I can post memes mocking other world views or lifestyles and just plead ignorance. Let me find some over the next few days, and i'll post them up later. And if you question my assumption, the fact is that it is just a bit of craic is fine
Let's not forget that Christian's are currently preventing equal rights for gay/lesbian people to marry.
Are they? Obviously in NI there are issues, granted, but let's see:
As of 2 April 2019, same-sex marriage is legally performed and recognized (nationwide or in some jurisdictions) in Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Ireland, Luxembourg, Malta, Mexico, the Netherlands,New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, the United Kingdom, the United States, and Uruguay. Israel recognizes same-sex marriages entered into abroad as full marriages. Estonia recognizes foreign same-sex marriages to some degree, and a ministerial decision decreed that Armenia shall as well, though as of February 2019 there had been no actual cases. Same-sex marriage is also due to become legal in Costa Rica and Taiwan. Furthermore, the Inter-American Court of Human Rights has issued a ruling which is expected to facilitate recognition in several countries in the Americas.
Seems an awful lot of countries have passed something which Christians are preventing? Funny that. Unless you mean eastern countries, which aren't Christian nations. Why not go after the leaders in the middle east who prevent same-sex marriage? See that is a bit of a myth, based on a minority sample. Consider the number of countries Christians face persecution: more or less everywhere. The number of Christian martyrs over the past 100 years is more than in the whole of church history. So much so, the ex-President of the united states and an unsuccessful presidential candidate can't even refer to Christians as Christians. Apparently they are people who worship Easter.
Yet other Christian's are on here crying for equal rights because of a few memes.
No, I'm asking you to respect a belief system which a vast number of people hold too. Nowhere have I posted anything offensive to other world views or lifestyles, yet yourself, JB and, to an extent, Big Mervyn seem so keen to be intentionally provocative. Why is this?
Brill it's still a man walking through a door, although yes I am being somewhat facetious. Jesus (if he existed
) was not white though.
In NI, unionist politicians have blocked marriage equality using the petition of concern, based on their biblical beliefs. That is what I was referring to. What's your thoughts on marriage equality? Yes or no?
I don't have to respect your belief system. Why should I? I had it rammed down my throat since I was a child. It adversely affected my mental health until I sought help. Unwiring my brain from the Christian belief system was the most freeing and liberating experience of my life.
Telling children that they will go to hell for their unbelief can be an emotionally abusive and psychologically damaging experience. I was that child. Terrified I accepted the 'truths' being told to me by trusted adults. By the time I reached 25 I had endured several depressive episodes. Wrapped by guilt and a sense of being never good enough, I even experienced suicidal thoughts.
I was prayed for many times. Told that Jesus would heal me, that did not happen. Depression felt like a cancer to me. Until I was able to cut out the root cause, I wasn't able to find freedom. Reading about new freeing ideas such as epistemology, nihilism, empiricism etc.. really freed and opened my mind. The rejection of the dysfunctional assumptions I had previously believed as true mirrors the philosophical movement experienced by collective thinking, out of modernity, into an era of post-truth.
This can cause an uneasy feeling if you are heavily invested in the religious life. I tend not to dwell on feelings. The misinterpretation of internal somatic processes exacerbated by emotional reasoning previously led me towards a 'spiritual' conviction that God was truely real. When I engaged my brain and challenged certain assumptions then the belief in God, for me, ended.
There were things that I could say were true, such as the, grass is green. I could believe that to be true 100%, that is by taking reality at face value. When comparing a truth like that to belief in God, I was less and less convinced. 100% reduced to 95, 90, evently 0.
Ultimately I'm not sure why Christians worry so much about memes. If you are secure in your faith, you simply knock the dust off your feet, as we are all off to hell...
Perhaps I've overshared here but it might had some context to how others react to the social media posts of Israel Folau.