Squad depth 2024/25

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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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earl the beaver wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:41 pm
Neill_M wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:57 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:21 pm When are we going to announce who we're signing? We knew LH was an issue for years, hence the signing of Kitshoff and now we appear to be just reverting back to it being a problem again.
RE LHP would guess that a contract renewal for O'Sullivan will be announced shortly. In terms of other signings, Murphy in an interview this week, that may be limited business yet to be announced otherwise working within the current squad who will be around next season.
I just don't buy the poverty schtick, we had a budget from the IRFU for Kitshoff, we can buy property, we're losing a number of our more expensive IQ players (Burns, Addison, Marshall) and both of our NIQs.

This is a conscious decision and I just don't get it, in who's interest is it for us to flirt with the bottom of the table and have our youngsters get battered and disillusioned hurting any chance of us providing more players to the international side.
The sale of the uninhabited drug house would bring in £ 1/2M and go a long way to securing a decent LHP and frankly I fail to understand why UR set out to purchase several houses at the cost of some £1.5m at a time when finances must have been turning bad…

Our new CEO equated an extra so many season ticket holders =so many new contracts in what may have been conceived as a strategy to sell more season tickets ..

It will be a long slow fix ….
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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Michael McDonald returning from his loan spell at Connacht to be part of the 24/25 squad.
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xxxx = 24/25 contract TBC
???? = contract situation unknown

LHP – Eric O’Sullivan (xxxx), Andrew Warwick (2025), Callum Reid (2025), Cameron Doak (????), George Saunderson (????)
Hooker – James McCormick (xxxx), Rob Herring (2025), John Andrew (2025), Tom Stewart (2026)
THP - Marty Moore (xxxx), Scott Wilson (2026), Tom O’Toole (2027)
Lock - Alan O’Connor (2025), Iain Henderson (2025), Kieran Treadwell (2026), Cormac Izuchukwu (2026), Charlie Irvine (????), Joe Hopes (????)
Backrow - Matthew Rea (xxxx), Reuben Crothers (xxxx), Nick Timoney (2025), David McCann (2025), Harry Sheridan (2025), Sean Reffell (2026), Lorcan McLoughlin (2026), James McNabney (2027), Marcus Rea (????)
SH –Dave Shanahan (xxxx), Michael McDonald (xxxx), John Cooney (2025), Conor McKee (2025), Nathan Doak (2026)
10 - Jake Flannery (2026), James Humphreys (????)
Centre - Ben Carson (xxxx), Stewart Moore (2025), Stuart McCloskey (2025), James Hume (2027)
Back 3 Player - Robert Baloucoune (2025), Ethan McIlroy (2025), Ben Moxham (2025), Michael Lowry (2025), Aaron Sexton (2025), Jacob Stockdale (2025), Werner Kok (2026), Jude Postlewaite (2026), Rory Telfer (????)
Coaches – Craig Newby (xxxx), Jonny Bell (2025), Roddy Grant (2025), Richie Murphy (2026), Dan Soper (????)
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Neill_M wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:19 am xxxx = 24/25 contract TBC
???? = contract situation unknown

LHP – Eric O’Sullivan (xxxx), Andrew Warwick (2025), Callum Reid (2025), Cameron Doak (????), George Saunderson (????)
Hooker – James McCormick (xxxx), Rob Herring (2025), John Andrew (2025), Tom Stewart (2026)
THP - Marty Moore (xxxx), Scott Wilson (2026), Tom O’Toole (2027)
Lock - Alan O’Connor (2025), Iain Henderson (2025), Kieran Treadwell (2026), Cormac Izuchukwu (2026), Charlie Irvine (????), Joe Hopes (????)
Backrow - Matthew Rea (xxxx), Reuben Crothers (xxxx), Nick Timoney (2025), David McCann (2025), Harry Sheridan (2025), Sean Reffell (2026), Lorcan McLoughlin (2026), James McNabney (2027), Marcus Rea (????)
SH –Dave Shanahan (xxxx), Michael McDonald (xxxx), John Cooney (2025), Conor McKee (2025), Nathan Doak (2026)
10 - Jake Flannery (2026), James Humphreys (????)
Centre - Ben Carson (xxxx), Stewart Moore (2025), Stuart McCloskey (2025), James Hume (2027)
Back 3 Player - Robert Baloucoune (2025), Ethan McIlroy (2025), Ben Moxham (2025), Michael Lowry (2025), Aaron Sexton (2025), Jacob Stockdale (2025), Werner Kok (2026), Jude Postlewaite (2026), Rory Telfer (????)
Coaches – Craig Newby (xxxx), Jonny Bell (2025), Roddy Grant (2025), Richie Murphy (2026), Dan Soper (????)
This is a fantastic list - thanks for doing it.
Quick question - have you any information as to what academy players get included in the senior squad - eg. you have included Cameron Doak Charlie Irvine, Hopes and Telfer - but not Boal and Boyd...
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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Buns Baggins wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 2:54 pm
Neill_M wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:19 am xxxx = 24/25 contract TBC
???? = contract situation unknown

LHP – Eric O’Sullivan (xxxx), Andrew Warwick (2025), Callum Reid (2025), Cameron Doak (????), George Saunderson (????)
Hooker – James McCormick (xxxx), Rob Herring (2025), John Andrew (2025), Tom Stewart (2026)
THP - Marty Moore (xxxx), Scott Wilson (2026), Tom O’Toole (2027)
Lock - Alan O’Connor (2025), Iain Henderson (2025), Kieran Treadwell (2026), Cormac Izuchukwu (2026), Charlie Irvine (????), Joe Hopes (????)
Backrow - Matthew Rea (xxxx), Reuben Crothers (xxxx), Nick Timoney (2025), David McCann (2025), Harry Sheridan (2025), Sean Reffell (2026), Lorcan McLoughlin (2026), James McNabney (2027), Marcus Rea (????)
SH –Dave Shanahan (xxxx), Michael McDonald (xxxx), John Cooney (2025), Conor McKee (2025), Nathan Doak (2026)
10 - Jake Flannery (2026), James Humphreys (????)
Centre - Ben Carson (xxxx), Stewart Moore (2025), Stuart McCloskey (2025), James Hume (2027)
Back 3 Player - Robert Baloucoune (2025), Ethan McIlroy (2025), Ben Moxham (2025), Michael Lowry (2025), Aaron Sexton (2025), Jacob Stockdale (2025), Werner Kok (2026), Jude Postlewaite (2026), Rory Telfer (????)
Coaches – Craig Newby (xxxx), Jonny Bell (2025), Roddy Grant (2025), Richie Murphy (2026), Dan Soper (????)
This is a fantastic list - thanks for doing it.
Quick question - have you any information as to what academy players get included in the senior squad - eg. you have included Cameron Doak Charlie Irvine, Hopes and Telfer - but not Boal and Boyd...
Not familiar with every player in the academy, if you could provide me with those I am missing, which position and any contract information? I could add them.
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SUFTUM_19 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:08 am Having seen the confirmed departures, aside from 10, prop is my biggest concern. Only O’Sullivan, Warwick and Reid on LH and O’Toole, Moore and Wilson on TH, and Reid and Moore have been injured all season.

Wonder if Kyle McCall would fancy a return? Played primarily LH for us, but has been playing TH more recently with Hinch, he’s better than French, McGrath and Griffin, knows the pro game and with a full pre season in him could potentially be the best realistic option out there for a squad filler, especially as he covers both side of the scrum.
Had thought the same thing myself. One of our own and we could do a lot worse for 3rd/4th choice. Also could potentially be an option on either side.
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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Ulster Squad next season?

LHP
Eric O’Sullivan
Andrew Warwick
Callum Reid
George Saunderson
--
Jack Boal

THP
Tom O’Toole
Marty Moore
Scott Wilson
--
Cameron Doak
Jacob Boyd

Hooker
Rob Herring
Tom Stewart
John Andrew
James McCormick
--
Zac Solomon
Henry Walker

Lock

Alan O’Connor
Iain Henderson
Kieran Treadwell
Cormac Izuchukwu
Harry Sheridan
--
Charlie Irvine
Joe Hopes

Backrow
Matthew Rea
Reuben Crothers
Nick Timoney
David McCann
Sean Reffell
Lorcan McLoughlin
James McNabney
Marcus Rea
--
Josh Stevens
Tom Brigg
Bryn Ward
James McKillop

SH
John Cooney
Nathan Doak
Dave Shanahan
Michael McDonald
Conor McKee
--
Clark Logan

Outhalf
Aidan Morgan??
Jake Flannery
James Humphreys
--
Jack Murphy

Centre
Ben Carson
Stewart Moore
Stuart McCloskey
James Hume
Jude Postlewaite
--
Wilhelm De Klerk
Sam Berman
Johnny Scott

Back 3 Player
Robert Baloucoune
Ethan McIlroy
Ben Moxham
Michael Lowry
Aaron Sexton
Jacob Stockdale
Werner Kok
Rory Telfer
--
Lukas Kenny
Ben McFarlane
Ethan Graham
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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Laid out this way. Highlights the OH and Lock frailties and risks
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There are a number of players In that list that I would get rid off in the next 6 months ( e.g Carson, Sexton, Moxham etc). We are not a charity.
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Bobbievee wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 10:28 pm Laid out this way. Highlights the OH and Lock frailties and risks
We might be ok at lock, if injuries are reasonably kind but OH is a really big worry.

Anybody know why BB is heading to Munster?
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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solidarity wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 11:09 pm
Bobbievee wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 10:28 pm Laid out this way. Highlights the OH and Lock frailties and risks
We might be ok at lock, if injuries are reasonably kind but OH is a really big worry.

Anybody know why BB is heading to Munster?
Guessing £££.
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Cockatrice wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:14 am
earl the beaver wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 7:41 pm
Neill_M wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:57 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Wed May 15, 2024 5:21 pm When are we going to announce who we're signing? We knew LH was an issue for years, hence the signing of Kitshoff and now we appear to be just reverting back to it being a problem again.
RE LHP would guess that a contract renewal for O'Sullivan will be announced shortly. In terms of other signings, Murphy in an interview this week, that may be limited business yet to be announced otherwise working within the current squad who will be around next season.
I just don't buy the poverty schtick, we had a budget from the IRFU for Kitshoff, we can buy property, we're losing a number of our more expensive IQ players (Burns, Addison, Marshall) and both of our NIQs.

This is a conscious decision and I just don't get it, in who's interest is it for us to flirt with the bottom of the table and have our youngsters get battered and disillusioned hurting any chance of us providing more players to the international side.
The sale of the uninhabited drug house would bring in £ 1/2M and go a long way to securing a decent LHP and frankly I fail to understand why UR set out to purchase several houses at the cost of some £1.5m at a time when finances must have been turning bad…

Our new CEO equated an extra so many season ticket holders =so many new contracts in what may have been conceived as a strategy to sell more season tickets ..

It will be a long slow fix ….
Selling an asset to pay for a liability that will last 1 or 2 years and then be worthless is not good business practice.
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Re: Squad depth 2024/25

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>minigun
Bobbievee wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 10:28 pm Laid out this way. Highlights the OH and Lock frailties and risks
To be honest I actually think we're OK at lock. I think both the academy guys in that position have a good shot of making the grade, so don't mind being one short, with a chance they'll see game time.
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Unfortunately there is a lack of beef at lock -- lots of mobility-- no beef and the front row aren't the biggest either thus the scrum set piece is under pressure and our defence walks backwards.
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I’d have taken Snyman.
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