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Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:18 pm
by UlsterNo9
Dave wrote:According to the stats, Burns missed 8 tackles. Is that a new record?

http://linebreakrugby.com/2018/06/missi ... s-nothing/

Interesting read. All down to defensive systems.

Owen Farrell missed 11 against the All Blacks in the Autumn internationals and his Da is a defensive supremo.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:20 pm
by Dave
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Dave wrote:According to the stats, Burns missed 8 tackles. Is that a new record?

http://linebreakrugby.com/2018/06/missi ... s-nothing/

Interesting read.

Owen Farrell missed 11 against the All Blacks in the Autumn internationals and his Da is a defensive supremo.
Burns is dung, admit it.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:35 pm
by UlsterNo9
Dave wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Dave wrote:According to the stats, Burns missed 8 tackles. Is that a new record?

http://linebreakrugby.com/2018/06/missi ... s-nothing/

Interesting read.

Owen Farrell missed 11 against the All Blacks in the Autumn internationals and his Da is a defensive supremo.
Burns is dung, admit it.
True, he should have more missed tackles, given the percentage of possession Benetton had and the defensive system we are employing.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:54 pm
by Dave
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Dave wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Dave wrote:According to the stats, Burns missed 8 tackles. Is that a new record?

http://linebreakrugby.com/2018/06/missi ... s-nothing/

Interesting read.

Owen Farrell missed 11 against the All Blacks in the Autumn internationals and his Da is a defensive supremo.
Burns is dung, admit it.
True, he should have more missed tackles, given the percentage of possession Benetton had and the defensive system we are employing.
Dung

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:13 pm
by UlsterNo9
He'll do for me

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:03 pm
by Dave
UlsterNo9 wrote:He'll do for me
We need better.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:59 pm
by Amiga500
skiboo wrote:Burns tackling is non existent and makes Ian Humphries defence capabilities look like Andrew Trimble at his best.
Now, now. Lets keep it real.

You obviously must have forgotten just how bad iHumph was!

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:03 pm
by Amiga500
UlsterNo9 wrote:True, he should have more missed tackles, given the percentage of possession Benetton had and the defensive system we are employing.
Such a load of pish.

We're trying to hide Burns in defence by moving him out of 10 channel when possible and he still misses a load of them.
He doesn't lead an aggressive defensive line, and still misses a load of them.
He doesn't seek to make dominant hits high up, but still misses a load of them.


What on earth fkking system is there that we are using that is painting Billy Burns inability to make a tackle in a good light?

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:32 pm
by therealspratt
Burns doesn't seem particularly great at any real facet of outhalf play other than the odd grubber kick.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:53 pm
by rumncoke
Burns is the only “Professionally”
Experienced out half Ulster have at the moment .

My guess is that the Ulster management want to introduce Lowry to professional outhalf play gradually with about 15 minutes a game .

To condemn Burns when he is half fit is not really fair to be honest especially when he is receiving a service which is slow and telegraphed .

Stated previously Burns was on a hiding to nothing following the Ginger Prince and an existing fan base of the Midget in waiting .


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Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:23 pm
by Deraless
Billy is taking a major one for the team. This will be taken into consideration by the current regime who continue to pick him.

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Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:14 pm
by UlsterNo9
Amiga500 wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:True, he should have more missed tackles, given the percentage of possession Benetton had and the defensive system we are employing.
Such a load of pish.

We're trying to hide Burns in defence by moving him out of 10 channel when possible and he still misses a load of them.
He doesn't lead an aggressive defensive line, and still misses a load of them.
He doesn't seek to make dominant hits high up, but still misses a load of them.


What on earth fkking system is there that we are using that is painting Billy Burns inability to make a tackle in a good light?
Oh dear :roll: who pished in your cornflakes!

Do enlighten me then to the defensive system we are playing Amigo?

I'll help you..... but just a little, I'm sure you will agree Burns is playing the same defensive system that Addison and Stockdale are playing?

According to the stats

Stockdale
Versus Racing made 5 tackles and had 6 missed tackles
Versus Leicester made 1 tackle and had 3 missed tackles

Addison
Versus Racing made 10 tackles and had 5 missed tackles
Versus Leicester made 5 tackles and had 3 missed tackles

http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/playerstats ... gue=271937
http://www.espn.co.uk/rugby/playerstats ... gue=271937

Stockdale out!
Addison out!

Burns was moved out of the ten channel for the last half of the game because he was clearly injured and we had made all of our back substitutions. He has been playing on one leg for a month.

Do I think Burns is Dan Carter no, does Burns think he is Dan Carter no..... but lets be honest we have witnessed two decent tens in the last twenty years play for Ulster.... and a few capable of turning it on but not consistently.

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:52 pm
by Dave
Who does Dan Carter think he is?

Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:54 pm
by Jackie Brown
Dave wrote:Who does Dan Carter think he is?
Paddy Jackson

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Re: Ulster Vs Benetton Fri 25th @ 7.35pm Live Freesports

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 8:55 pm
by Dave
Jackie Brown wrote:
Dave wrote:Who does Dan Carter think he is?
Paddy Jackson

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