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BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:19 am
by monkee
Rob Bonnett Is a disgrace to the BBC TV Licence. He actually stops the idiot to let him know that he missed a point!?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... ugby_Club/
Rob Bonnett is my nomination for Gatland of the Year.
This, sadly, is the future.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:05 am
by ParcoPorta
Nothing surprising in anything Wray has to say

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:37 am
by ParcoPorta
Almost forgot. He did say he thought it would still be called Heineken Cup?!

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 10:30 am
by King Ding
Im just impressed Wray was able to keep a straight face when trying to let on that Saracens are hindered by the salary cap.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:12 am
by Rooster
If you chuck out the hate glasses and listen to the man he actually makes a lot of very relevant points as to what all the problems going on are and talks an awful lot of sense.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:56 pm
by brianc
Rooster wrote:If you chuck out the hate glasses and listen to the man he actually makes a lot of very relevant points as to what all the problems going on are and talks an awful lot of sense.
Rooster, whereabouts on here is there any evidence that most of our "experts" are likely to either take off hate glasses or even actually listen to what is said? Neither trait is common amongst the majority folks on here.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:30 pm
by BR
brianc wrote:
Rooster wrote:If you chuck out the hate glasses and listen to the man he actually makes a lot of very relevant points as to what all the problems going on are and talks an awful lot of sense.
Rooster, whereabouts on here is there any evidence that most of our "experts" are likely to either take off hate glasses or even actually listen to what is said? Neither trait is common amongst the majority folks on here.
I really HATE it when somebody jumps in and makes my point before me! Gatland!

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:40 pm
by Cap'n Grumpy
BR wrote:
brianc wrote:
Rooster wrote:If you chuck out the hate glasses and listen to the man he actually makes a lot of very relevant points as to what all the problems going on are and talks an awful lot of sense.
Rooster, whereabouts on here is there any evidence that most of our "experts" are likely to either take off hate glasses or even actually listen to what is said? Neither trait is common amongst the majority folks on here.
I really HATE it when somebody jumps in and makes my point before me! Gatland!
But people listen to brianc. :lol:

It's funny though that two people (hypothetically) could say exactly the same thing, but how it is received depends on which one you hear and how it was said.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:39 pm
by Snipe Watson
Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
BR wrote:
brianc wrote:
Rooster wrote:If you chuck out the hate glasses and listen to the man he actually makes a lot of very relevant points as to what all the problems going on are and talks an awful lot of sense.
Rooster, whereabouts on here is there any evidence that most of our "experts" are likely to either take off hate glasses or even actually listen to what is said? Neither trait is common amongst the majority folks on here.
I really HATE it when somebody jumps in and makes my point before me! Gatland!
But people listen to brianc. :lol:

It's funny though that two people (hypothetically) could say exactly the same thing, but how it is received depends on which one you hear and how it was said.
I was going to post that......darn it......

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:26 pm
by Rooster
Well has anyone listened right through the interview yet ?

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:09 pm
by Snipe Watson
Rooster wrote:Well has anyone listened right through the interview yet ?
Yes
Getting the right people in and treating them well = the Ulster Way and a very good point it is.
He tells it as it is and how he sees it in a very measured and reasonable way. The fact is that this deal doesn't suit us, it suits them and he acknowledges that. There is nothing insulting or offensive in what he says. The problem is the gunboat diplomacy used by him and his colleagues in throwing their weight around and using the RFU as their lackey.

His point about building something enduring that will go on is interesting and suggests that as I have felt, he leaves his business head in the car when he arrives at Saracens. It'll not endure if it is a busted flush with debts like a third world banana republic.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:23 pm
by scrum5
Yes, I just listened to it and Nigel Wray would make an absolutely brilliant politian....

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:27 pm
by Snipe Watson
scrum5 wrote:Yes, I just listened to it and Nigel Wray would make an absolutely brilliant politian....
He wants whatever suits his team and you cannot fault him for that. You can be sure the spin doctors were all over those questions and answers beforehand. It was of course a piece of propaganda and had to be reasonable or it wouldn't work.

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:37 pm
by scrum5
If he stood beside a corkscrew you couldn't tell the difference...

Re: BBC apologists

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:31 pm
by Cap'n Grumpy
Rooster wrote:Well has anyone listened right through the interview yet ?
Not me ....

... while what he was saying sounded very reasonable, I turned off after a few minutes because it was an obvious propaganda exercise portraying the Ulster ..... I mean the Sarries way.

Strange thing is, had it been Shane Logan saying what he said, I might have thought he believed (most of) what he was saying.