Kofi Annan wrote:Does a coach get a team to play to his ideas and views on how he wants a team to play, how he wants to " go forward" or does he see what he has as players and builds a plan around that without any other options other than a one dimensional game.
I await the responses.
Only a fool would attempt to implement a game plan that his players are incapable of delivering. So his starting point is always the players' skill set after which he builds his patterns to optimise the returns.
That would be my approach anyway.
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Oh FFS Snipe, I'm posting from my fecking iPad too but I don't feel the need to tell everybody, I thought you were better than that
Anyway Kofi, I've answered that before you asked it.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
Kofi Annan wrote:Does a coach get a team to play to his ideas and views on how he wants a team to play, how he wants to " go forward" or does he see what he has as players and builds a plan around that without any other options other than a one dimensional game.
I await the responses.
Only a fool would attempt to implement a game plan that his players are incapable of delivering. So his starting point is always the players' skill set after which he builds his patterns to optimise the returns.
That would be my approach anyway.
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Oh FFS Snipe, I'm posting from my fecking iPad too but I don't feel the need to tell everybody, I thought you were better than that
Anyway Kofi, I've answered that before you asked it.
I just happened to be on my ipad and I don't know how to take that daft thing off. all right???
See thon yard you just sent Shan up? Away after him ye tornip in disguise.........
Having suffered through O'Sullivan's and Kidney's flawed use(or lack of) the bench, credit where credit is due....
Replacements: Strauss for Cronin 59, White for Ross 51, O'Connell for Tuohy 55, Murphy for Conan 65, Reddan for Boss 65, Jackson for Zebo 77, D Kearney for Bowe 59.
- masterful use of the bench!
From the rolling glens of Antrim through the hills of Donegal we will stand and shout for Ulster as we win both scrum and maul from the lovely lakes of Fermanagh tae the shores of ould Lough Gall we will scream and shout for Ulster as we beat them one and all!
Incidentally, if anyone was aware of a preordained strategy in place on Saturday, kudos to you, you must be a fecking rugby genius or an utter liar.
It was an utter mess doomed to fail by the abysmal selection by the resident genius of a scrum half who can't pass, an outhalf who can't run a game and becomes a contortionist in attempting passes, who got lucky when a speculative kick was astonishingly caught by a winger with little or no control of his movement and hands like feet. All aided and abetted by a dodgy defending winger at fullback who amazingly escaped a game losing yellow card, primarily because the man with the whistle was an oaf.
Throw in a dead centre who simply hasn't had the wit to stiffen, with an error-free but anonymous partner and you have a coach with a plan that only he can have imagined would succeed.
Harrumph.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
Baggy that's very much a one eyed narrow and personal view i e he can only play FullBack which is of course not true if you were to say that full back appears to suit his skill set better you would have a large number of people agreeing with you , the problem is that at international level full backs don't have the freedom to play the game that way .
Zeno on Saturday was playing a roving full back role coming into the line and Ireland have a way 3 trys and the centre seldom received a pass and wings were reduced to ball catchers
While Joe spoke well of Zebo and Madigan to the media what he might say on Monday morning having watched the game a couple times could be different .
My take was that the attack was very much a structured narrow approach using wings and centres running on to a short pass which was being badly executed until Madigan switched to passing inside instead of out when the Scottish back row had started to tire
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Within this carapace of skepticism there lives an optimist
Incidentally, if anyone was aware of a preordained strategy in place on Saturday, kudos to you, you must be a fecking rugby genius or an utter liar.
It was an utter mess doomed to fail by the abysmal selection by the resident genius of a scrum half who can't pass, an outhalf who can't run a game and becomes a contortionist in attempting passes, who got lucky when a speculative kick was astonishingly caught by a winger with little or no control of his movement and hands like feet. All aided and abetted by a dodgy defending winger at fullback who amazingly escaped a game losing yellow card, primarily because the man with the whistle was an oaf.
Throw in a dead centre who simply hasn't had the wit to stiffen, with an error-free but anonymous partner and you have a coach with a plan that only he can have imagined would succeed.
Harrumph.
As I have already stated. This process is about identifying who to eliminate as well as who to include. The identification of quite a few to send home was greatly aided by Saturday's selection and outcome.
A somewhat mean and tarnished view of the team and players but a fair enoung reflection of the performance I 'll accept the game plan of using Zebo and Fitz coming into the line as being that of the coach the failure in execution was down to the players.
Sometimes failure can be more enlightening than success
I do not accept fully the idea that the Welsh team was a poor side than the Scots put out being the reason for a better performance in the Welch match I would have some acceptance to the view that the game against the Scots could well have been down to a slower service by Boss but if the service from the base is slow then the back line should have gone deeper and not have been as flat which is an on field adjustment which should have been called by the out half.
My opinion would be that joe should go with 3 out halfs and only two scrum halfs Redden and Murray
Within this carapace of skepticism there lives an optimist
rumncoke wrote:A somewhat mean and tarnished view of the team and players but a fair enoung reflection of the performance I 'll accept the game plan of using Zebo and Fitz coming into the line as being that of the coach the failure in execution was down to the players.
Sometimes failure can be more enlightening than success
I do not accept fully the idea that the Welsh team was a poor side than the Scots put out being the reason for a better performance in the Welch match I would have some acceptance to the view that the game against the Scots could well have been down to a slower service by Boss but if the service from the base is slow then the back line should have gone deeper and not have been as flat which is an on field adjustment which should have been called by the out half.
My opinion would be that joe should go with 3 out halfs and only two scrum halfs Redden and Murray
Yes. Sure Quiffy can step into 9 if needs be. Thon wee bai can play anywhere, so he can, so he can.
(But just not that great in any one position.)
rumncoke wrote:A somewhat mean and tarnished view of the team and players but a fair enoung reflection of the performance I 'll accept the game plan of using Zebo and Fitz coming into the line as being that of the coach the failure in execution was down to the players.
Sometimes failure can be more enlightening than success
I do not accept fully the idea that the Welsh team was a poor side than the Scots put out being the reason for a better performance in the Welch match I would have some acceptance to the view that the game against the Scots could well have been down to a slower service by Boss but if the service from the base is slow then the back line should have gone deeper and not have been as flat which is an on field adjustment which should have been called by the out half.
My opinion would be that joe should go with 3 out halfs and only two scrum halfs Redden and Murray
Yes. Sure Quiffy can step into 9 if needs be. Thon wee bai can play anywhere, so he can, so he can.
(But just not that great in any one position.)
ROG said utility players are all well and good, but you need specialists to win big games.
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And ROG knows his rugby, selecting the utility guys is cutting corners though you can see the temptation.
Snipe away out of that, some of those selections were entirely unnecessary to further that aim, it was a joke selection and doomed before KO.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
rumncoke wrote:
My opinion would be that joe should go with 3 out halfs and only two scrum halfs Redden and Murray
Given that a replacement for an injured player can't play for 72 hours after joining the squad, we'd be in a tight spot if one of the SHs picked up a training injury 2 days before a quarter final.
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