Referees

[Snipe Watson]

Interesting interview with Wayne Barnes on how professional RFU referees under Tony Spreadbury review their performances and mistakes.
The group brutally critique each other's performances and refs are required to explain their thinking process for any decisions they got wrong. the interview showed footage from the referees in group meetings where they had to explain themselves to the group. It looked brutal to be honest. JP Doyle was going through a penalty he had wrongly awarded basically frame by frame explaining who he thought was doing what, why he thought it was illegal and why he got it wrong. There was no room to hide.

There is also clear feedback given to clubs, who also get to have their opinion heard.

[Indiana]

There needs to be a system whereby consistent failings can be openly challenged by club officials and the referees can be subject to penalty for failing to achieve set standards. Without proper systems it becomes little more than a closed club with referees judging fellow referees. I know as fans we often like to think that some refs are biased against us but that is often just our perceptions. What we are consistently seeing is referees especially in the pro 12 making poor rulings which destroy close games for all the teams.

[Russ]

Does Ian Davies appear at this panel?

[Snipe Watson]

Does Ian Davies appear at this panel?

Is Ian Davies a RFU referee?

[Russ]

Does Ian Davies appear at this panel?

Is Ian Davies a RFU referee?

I didn't see that bit

So Nigel gets away with his bs too

[Snipe Watson]

There needs to be a system whereby consistent failings can be openly challenged by club officials and the referees can be subject to penalty for failing to achieve set standards. Without proper systems it becomes little more than a closed club with referees judging fellow referees. I know as fans we often like to think that some refs are biased against us but that is often just our perceptions. What we are consistently seeing is referees especially in the pro 12 making poor rulings which destroy close games for all the teams.

The clubs submit a report and receive a report clarifying decisions made. This is the RFU system, I have no idea what the Pro12 refs do. There does seem to be a high level of accountability.

[Neill_M]

Saw Barnes on rugby tonight via twitter, interesting video about the scoring of a try, double movement etc.

[Snipe Watson]

Saw Barnes on rugby tonight via twitter, interesting video about the scoring of a try, double movement etc.

I didn't know that you can flyhack a ball forward with your non kicking foot in touch as long as the ball hasn't crossed the plane of the touch line. You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

[big mervyn]

You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

Would you be offside if you were off the field when the ball was kicked forward?

[Snipe Watson]

You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

Would you be offside if you were off the field when the ball was kicked forward?

probably, assuming you were ahead of the ball.
My other question is this: If I were kicking a penalty in a gale and the ball missed the posts so badly or ricochets off the post and goes into touch do is it still our ball at the lineout?

I hereby advise that I was a bad enough kicker for this to happen.

[BaggyTrousers]

Saw Barnes on rugby tonight via twitter, interesting video about the scoring of a try, double movement etc.

I didn't know that you can flyhack a ball forward with your non kicking foot in touch as long as the ball hasn't crossed the plane of the touch line. You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

I'd put money on it that not many officials know that, I'm certain I've seen it done and called a lineout where you kick it.

[Cap'n Grumpy]

You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

Would you be offside if you were off the field when the ball was kicked forward?

probably, assuming you were ahead of the ball.
My other question is this: If I were kicking a penalty in a gale and the ball missed the posts so badly or ricochets off the post and goes into touch do is it still our ball at the lineout?

I hereby advise that I was a bad enough kicker for this to happen.

Further to my previous reply on another thread .....I do believe you on this one.

[Snipe Watson]

You can also touch a ball down for a try while you are off the field as long as you aren't in possession and only apply downward pressure.

Would you be offside if you were off the field when the ball was kicked forward?

probably, assuming you were ahead of the ball.
My other question is this: If I were kicking a penalty in a gale and the ball missed the posts so badly or ricochets off the post and goes into touch do is it still our ball at the lineout?

I hereby advise that I was a bad enough kicker for this to happen.

Further to my previous reply on another thread .....I do believe you on this one.

Why I'm not your Granny.........

Do you know the answer to the question?

[Cap'n Grumpy]

Why I'm not your Granny.........

Because, apparently .... allegedly, ..... supposedly, my Granny might at some stage have advised me to believe half of what I read on these forums ....

Do you know the answer to the question?

Yes

[Snipe Watson]

So Cockatrice is your Granny?