Casement Park … the inevitable question.
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Casement Park … the inevitable question.
Planning permission for the redevelopment of Casement Park was passed today and looks like it is going ahead as an exremely impressive 38,000 all seater.
So…the inevitable question(s).
Hypothetical situation. If, in a few years time Ulster draw Leinster/Munster in a HEC (if it is exists!) quarter final at home. What do we do?
A few years back we were getting averages of 6-7000 a game. Now we are selling out every game at c13-14k. UR rugby is growing and will continue to do so. We are set up financially as good, if not better than any other Province. (Thomond debt and RDS rent & also both pay a large rents for training base to UCD and UL respectively. We have none of these outgoings.
Would you be in favour of switching a q/f, or indeed s/f to the new Casement Park?
Would you feel comfortable going to Andersonstown to watch Ulster play?
Would the local residents of Andytown welcome Ulster rugby supporters to West Belfast?
Would Ulster GAA allow it to happen?
What would the IRFU think considering that they would be keen to stage the q/f or s/f at the Aviva? $$$
There is nothing better than being crammed in to Ravers for a big European game, the atmosphere is second to none. 18k is about perfect for what we need, but to have such an arena only a few miles away for a huge (and rare) match raises a new predicament. We took 42k to Dublin for a s/f. Possibly 10's of thousands would be disappointed if such a game ever comes up. Especially as it's taxpayers money, and it to be by far the biggest stadium in NI, it is in a way the de-facto NI national stadium. It would be almost criminal to not even consider it for limited use IMO.
So…the inevitable question(s).
Hypothetical situation. If, in a few years time Ulster draw Leinster/Munster in a HEC (if it is exists!) quarter final at home. What do we do?
A few years back we were getting averages of 6-7000 a game. Now we are selling out every game at c13-14k. UR rugby is growing and will continue to do so. We are set up financially as good, if not better than any other Province. (Thomond debt and RDS rent & also both pay a large rents for training base to UCD and UL respectively. We have none of these outgoings.
Would you be in favour of switching a q/f, or indeed s/f to the new Casement Park?
Would you feel comfortable going to Andersonstown to watch Ulster play?
Would the local residents of Andytown welcome Ulster rugby supporters to West Belfast?
Would Ulster GAA allow it to happen?
What would the IRFU think considering that they would be keen to stage the q/f or s/f at the Aviva? $$$
There is nothing better than being crammed in to Ravers for a big European game, the atmosphere is second to none. 18k is about perfect for what we need, but to have such an arena only a few miles away for a huge (and rare) match raises a new predicament. We took 42k to Dublin for a s/f. Possibly 10's of thousands would be disappointed if such a game ever comes up. Especially as it's taxpayers money, and it to be by far the biggest stadium in NI, it is in a way the de-facto NI national stadium. It would be almost criminal to not even consider it for limited use IMO.
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I think 1st choice will always be the fortress. HEC semi-finals could be a different story. I'd have no issue with casement and I doubt the locals would either.
I'd imagine the IRFU would be pressuring Ulster to play such games at the Aviva and I'd say that would be the decisive factor.
I'd imagine the IRFU would be pressuring Ulster to play such games at the Aviva and I'd say that would be the decisive factor.
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The growth will flatten out and if peformances drop off, so will the crowds. If the growth continues, the corners can be filled in.
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Think they said the corners might be filled in if Ireland gets the 2023 World Cup. Is it even possible though there is a property beside the War Memorial that is right in the way of the footprint of any filling at that corner, by a long way as well. The rest of the corners could be filled no bother.
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Re: Casement Park … the inevitable question.
Yes for "neutral" semi finals
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Re: Casement Park … the inevitable question.
Makes sense to have 2 stadia available with different capacities.
If there was any sense, the Aviva and Croke Park would also both be utilised for all sports.
If there was any sense, the Aviva and Croke Park would also both be utilised for all sports.
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No to switching a QF, yes to switching a SF - only because we have to!
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Humph will be on the blower as soon as the workmen are finished.
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I;m sure Andersontown has enough fellas who look like tight head props
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Re: Casement Park … the inevitable question.
I have to say that 38000 may well be too small for a HC semi-final. If our support grows then the Aviva may still be the best bet to allow as many as possible to go to a semi.big mervyn wrote:Makes sense to have 2 stadia available with different capacities.
If there was any sense, the Aviva and Croke Park would also both be utilised for all sports.
I would have no problem going to Casement Park, I actually went with me Da & Bro'er to a GAA fixture pre-troubles Antrim v Down as I recall.
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Being someone who works in the west, who has represented Antrim at various levels and is a season ticket holder at Ravenhill, i can tell you that the locals would welcome the Ulstermen, most of them could not give a flying feck about religion, politics or the like, there would be no issue whatsoever.
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What price is the drink at Casement Park?
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Re: Casement Park … the inevitable question.
Chapebig mervyn wrote:What price is the drink at Casement Park?
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HWM will wonder what their policy on cheerleaders and flegs isbig mervyn wrote:What price is the drink at Casement Park?
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lol last time i bought a pint it was 2.75 i think