Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

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Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by mikerob » Mon May 12, 2014 3:55 pm

Scores on the doors are as follows.
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Overall total attendances down a smidgen.

Ulster attendances up substantially to be the second best supported team in the competition (4th last season)

Ulster won't overtake Leinster while Leinster play their game against Munster at the Aviva, but could come pretty close if it was just Ravenhill vs. RDS. And of course Leinster pay rent for their games at the RDS and Aviva.

Munster are still playing 7 games at Thomond, 4 games at Musgrave Park so they could get more playing all at Thomond, but average attendances at Thomond are down.

Welsh attendances are generally meh and would be worse if it wasn't for the double header at the Millennium stadium.

Glasgow showing some good growth on the back of their good league performances and having a proper home at Scotstoun must help as well.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by mikerob » Mon May 12, 2014 4:02 pm

Also FYI, in comparison with the AP team attendances in their home grounds (excluding games at Twickenham and Wembley), Ulster would be third, quite a bit behind Leicester who average over 20k, just behind Gloucester and just ahead of Quins.

Leinster get more than Gloucester but less than Leicester.

It shows that when it comes to week-in, week-out gates for home games, Ulster is in a better position than most of the AP teams.

Having games at Twickenham and Wembley may boost attendance stats, but these games may be loss-leaders.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by ladyboy696969 » Mon May 12, 2014 4:04 pm

That total of 1,090,615 is a bit high me thinks. Did you count the 30k crowd at the welsh double header twice?

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by mikerob » Mon May 12, 2014 4:32 pm

ladyboy696969 wrote:That total of 1,090,615 is a bit high me thinks. Did you count the 30k crowd at the welsh double header twice?
That's the practice for these games - the double header attendance is counted as a home crowd for both of the 2 designated home teams.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by twiglet » Mon May 12, 2014 4:51 pm

Welsh clubs give LOTS of tickets away free to boost attendances. When I was at Dragons match last year there was a whole section in the stand where everyone had a free ticket.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by BR » Mon May 12, 2014 4:53 pm

twiglet wrote:Welsh clubs give LOTS of tickets away free to boost attendances. When I was at Dragons match last year there was a whole section in the stand where everyone had a free ticket.
I don't think we're in a position to do that yet. Maybe the season after next, it'll make more sense.
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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by damianmcr » Mon May 12, 2014 5:06 pm

Munster state numbers based on ST holders but not actual attendance. Do the numbers above do the same?

Look forward to see our numbers for next season.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by Snipe Watson » Mon May 12, 2014 5:09 pm

Given the stated attendance at TP on Saturday, I'd take the Munster figure with a big pinch of salt.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by mikerob » Mon May 12, 2014 5:47 pm

AFAIK all teams include ST holders as part of their attendances.

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Post by Thelaw » Mon May 12, 2014 6:05 pm

BR wrote:
twiglet wrote:Welsh clubs give LOTS of tickets away free to boost attendances. When I was at Dragons match last year there was a whole section in the stand where everyone had a free ticket.
I don't think we're in a position to do that yet. Maybe the season after next, it'll make more sense.
BR I don'y think we want to be in a position where we give away free tickets. They do it to try and boost attendance numbers, this year even with the stand being closed almost every game was a sellout, and hopefully we can keep the numbers going. That said I don remember when Ulster did give out free tickets, indeed it was what got me and my family interested. Mind you that was in the 1980's :fleg:
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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by damianmcr » Mon May 12, 2014 6:19 pm

mikerob wrote:AFAIK all teams include ST holders as part of their attendances.
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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by Russ » Mon May 12, 2014 6:31 pm

Reckon there was about 7000 in thomond on saturday

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by HammerTime » Mon May 12, 2014 6:37 pm

mikerob wrote:
ladyboy696969 wrote:That total of 1,090,615 is a bit high me thinks. Did you count the 30k crowd at the welsh double header twice?
That's the practice for these games - the double header attendance is counted as a home crowd for both of the 2 designated home teams.
That Aviva game has blown the rest of us out of the water for Leinster. Other than that Aviva game, with our stadium done we should be something similar next year. What about moving 1 big game to Casement every year when it's done. The Xmas game vs Munster or Leinster. Could surely get 30k, would look decent in a 38k capacity. Much bullish!t/politics involved, but have to start taking risks/thinking outside of the box for world domination.

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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by BR » Mon May 12, 2014 6:41 pm

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BR wrote:
twiglet wrote:Welsh clubs give LOTS of tickets away free to boost attendances. When I was at Dragons match last year there was a whole section in the stand where everyone had a free ticket.
I don't think we're in a position to do that yet. Maybe the season after next, it'll make more sense.
BR I don'y think we want to be in a position where we give away free tickets. They do it to try and boost attendance numbers, this year even with the stand being closed almost every game was a sellout, and hopefully we can keep the numbers going. That said I don remember when Ulster did give out free tickets, indeed it was what got me and my family interested. Mind you that was in the 1980's :fleg:
With the best will in the world we have 18k capacity and we're not going to fill it week in, week out, season after season. A controlled distribution of comps to schools, etc would be no bad thing. A) for the future and B) for sponsorship reasons. And that is ignoring C) the whole education/community aspect.
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Re: Stat Attack: 13/14 Pro12 Attendances

Post by Thelaw » Mon May 12, 2014 7:07 pm

BR as long as these tickets are confined to poorly attended matches - like zebre - then I agree. But I really don't think they should be handed out to any school, rather those who have or are trying to build a rugby team. And don't get me started on the corporate aspect. However I don't see why we shouldn't be trying to fill all the seats for every game.
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