Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Dave » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:07 pm

Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
If he was no good at 9 why is he still here at 25?
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Amiga500 » Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:26 pm

stickinout wrote:Shanners doesn't have a box kick of note, doesn't have a break to keep fringers in, doesn't have physicality, doesn't offer much control at lineout or scrum, and doesn't have the capacity to make quick decisions on the hoof . All he has is a passable pass........ He should've upped his game by now and he hasn't.
Came in to say pretty much this.

I thought he was better than Paul Marshall in that he offers a semblance of control for the forward pack to work off. But that's not good enough anymore.

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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Rooster » Mon Sep 17, 2018 10:27 pm

Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by nonplussed » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:57 pm

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Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by BaggyTrousers » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:00 am

Dave wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
If he was no good at 9 why is he still here at 25?

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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

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nonplussed wrote:
Rooster wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by pwrmoore » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:06 am

BaggyTrousers wrote:
Dave wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:Shanahan has nothing to offer at 9 never did and never will.. sorry to be blunt but the truth may hurt. We specialise in giving 200 plus caps to a 9 that held back any talent more than Ruan ever did and we risk giving Shanahan one more cap too many.. thankfully I hear that one youngster could be the real deal..
If he was no good at 9 why is he still here at 25?

It's the Ulster Way, 5 years ago p was still getting day release from primary school for work experience.

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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Gary » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:02 am

Best of the kid 9's should be Rhys O'Donnell, but he's been ditched it seems.
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Cockatrice » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:17 am

Doak... am told he is ten times his da was and could be fast tracked.. anyway one for the future.. why is Shanahan still here at 25 absolutely no idea..did we not sign another 9 or was I mistaken?
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by UlsterNo9 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:40 pm

So we are pinning our hopes on Stewart, Curtis jnr and Doak.

I'm on the fence about one but have not seen the other two play.

Doak still at school?
If he brings the playing attitude of his Da with what I'm led to believe better skills he'll be the best 9 we've produced ourselves since his Da.
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Dave » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:16 pm

UlsterNo9 wrote:So we are pinning our hopes on Stewart, Curtis jnr and Doak.

I'm on the fence about one but have not seen the other two play.

Doak still at school?
If he brings the playing attitude of his Da with what I'm led to believe better skills he'll be the best 9 we've produced ourselves since his Da.
Curtis jnr is the real deal.
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Columbo » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:04 pm

not great at all - will we rue missing the BP? We have had very good luck with the scheduling, 2 home games, followed by 2 away against the weakest sides in the league, it would have been nice to see us seizing the opportunity with both hands. That said, of course we are still settling in a new-look squad, new coach, new gameplan etc etc. So who knows, maybe 3 from 3 (and hopefully 4 from 4 after Friday) is a good base - the truth will out on the 29th in Limerick!

Also while the performance was poor - the reffing, good grief.. When a team commits 22 pens or whatever, they are basically not interested in a contest, and the ref played along by wimping out of yellows (they should have had 3-4 for red zone infringements). I think we are overplaying a bit - the talk of playing "heads-up, attractive" rugby has gone in, but there's a time and a place, and we seem to be trying to force it a bit too early. Still some nice signs, we just need it to click, and we need our skills to hold up better in contact and on the ground (shocking amount of poorly protected balls flying out of rucks)

Agree on the scrum-half situation, we have a dangerous dependence on Cooney - at least as much as we did on Pienaar. Why we haven't taken steps to remedy this over the last few years is beyond me.. Shanahan is ok if he sticks to flipping the ball out to 10, but he doesn't - also his kicking game is terrible. And sorry, but I don't really fancy Stewart on the basis of what I've seen.. It's a big problem for us

[Is Doak not playing 10 btw?]
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by UlsterNo9 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:13 pm

Columbo wrote: Agree on the scrum-half situation, we have a dangerous dependence on Cooney - at least as much as we did on Pienaar. Why we haven't taken steps to remedy this over the last few years is beyond me..
Hmmmm when will Ruans cub Jean-Luc turn 18? 15 years...... an Ulsterman by birth so...... FIRFU >seeya

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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Dave » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:53 pm

UlsterNo9 wrote:
Columbo wrote: Agree on the scrum-half situation, we have a dangerous dependence on Cooney - at least as much as we did on Pienaar. Why we haven't taken steps to remedy this over the last few years is beyond me..
Hmmmm when will Ruans cub Jean-Luc turn 18? 15 years...... an Ulsterman by birth so...... FIRFU >seeya

Dave / HWM....... get a countdown clock on this. :thumleft:
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Re: Southern Kings v Ulster Sun 16th Sep 1:15pm

Post by Deraless » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:11 pm

Dave wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Columbo wrote: Agree on the scrum-half situation, we have a dangerous dependence on Cooney - at least as much as we did on Pienaar. Why we haven't taken steps to remedy this over the last few years is beyond me..
Hmmmm when will Ruans cub Jean-Luc turn 18? 15 years...... an Ulsterman by birth so...... FIRFU >seeya

Dave / HWM....... get a countdown clock on this. :thumleft:
Why don't you?
Just switch off your television set and do something less boring instead.

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