Ulster v Bath

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by rumncoke » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:04 pm

Re the scrum

The Ulster scrum was fine on its own put in .

Now as a prop I try to disrupt an opposition scrum ( disruption of the scrum being illegal by any means other than push) to do one of two things either to disrupt the quality of their heal and delivery to scrum half or to attempt to tire the opposing propfroward

The first is basically a waste of effort with scrum half’s putting the ball in the second row.The second can be self destruction ie you tire your self more than the opposing prop.

The third reason is to get a penalty which of course requires the referee to be a moron -and penalise the wrong side .

If I try to disrupt the opposition scrum and get penalise then I know the referee is not a moron and therefore refrain from the practice .

On Saturday Bath played the referee disrupting the scrum on their own put in to benefit from the penalty — a kick to touch with the benefit of throw in .

Henderson on the third or fourth penalty questioned the referee as to what was wrong

His question should have been “ Do we look stupid “ if the referee had answered “ No “ “ Then don’t treat us as if we are .
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by rumncoke » Mon Jan 20, 2020 12:35 pm

IMHO I don’t think Gilroy isn’t the player he was before injury — there appears to be a desire to avoid physical contact and to be honest it is understandable having had back pain for 9 months would make anyone think twice .

It’s a shame because he has served Ulster well in the past but with the number of backs who are or would be available but for injury I can see retirement in the near future .
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Dharper » Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:21 pm

If Gilroy was unfit he wouldn’t be near the match day 23. His tackle stats aren’t great, however he was never particularly good defensively....let’s be honest. I doubt he’ll be retiring. His form is patchy to say the least, but I wouldn’t be writing him off yet. He needs a good run of game time. When you’ve been out that long it’s essy to pick up niggles & knocks. He has been overtaken for me by RB & RL, LL is a strange positional choice but not a long term option. I’ll reserve judgment on where he is til end of season/give him a full pre season. He is now genuinely under pressure we’ll see how he responds.

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Hapax Legomenon » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:14 pm

Gilroy depended on Darren Cave keeping him right in defence.
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Notarealdoctor » Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:45 pm

Dharper wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:21 pm
If Gilroy was unfit he wouldn’t be near the match day 23. His tackle stats aren’t great, however he was never particularly good defensively....let’s be honest. I doubt he’ll be retiring. His form is patchy to say the least, but I wouldn’t be writing him off yet. He needs a good run of game time. When you’ve been out that long it’s essy to pick up niggles & knocks. He has been overtaken for me by RB & RL, LL is a strange positional choice but not a long term option. I’ll reserve judgment on where he is til end of season/give him a full pre season. He is now genuinely under pressure we’ll see how he responds.
He should get a good run of games during the Six Nations with Stockdale, Addison and potentially Baloucoune away. That period could be quite telling for whether he is still the player he was prior to injury. As seen in recent weeks, we've a cracking XV but could really do with competition, even in the back three.

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Evil Kiwi » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:08 pm

damianmcr wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:30 am
MightyRearranger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:08 pm
I haven't heard much about Aaron Sexton this year, but if he comes back into the panel post 7's and comes anywhere close to the hype there'll be some battle for places in the Ulster team.
I don't think he made the Ireland 7's team.
He didn't nake the squad for the hong kong 7s but there is only like 10 in the squad. He is part of the setup though I think. Waste of time if you ask me.

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by big mervyn » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:18 pm

Evil Kiwi wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:08 pm
damianmcr wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 1:30 am
MightyRearranger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:08 pm
I haven't heard much about Aaron Sexton this year, but if he comes back into the panel post 7's and comes anywhere close to the hype there'll be some battle for places in the Ulster team.
I don't think he made the Ireland 7's team.
He didn't nake the squad for the hong kong 7s but there is only like 10 in the squad. He is part of the setup though I think. Waste of time if you ask me.
What is the point of 7s in this country? Nobody gives a flying feck about. It. Your average fan here would have more awareness of the weemin's 7s team.
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by fermain » Mon Jan 20, 2020 3:39 pm

much more a younger players sport, and that's where the most interest lies. Personally I like it and enjoy watching.
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by MightyRearranger » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:52 pm

Just checked and it seems he hasn't made the sevens squad announced a couple of days ago either. Not sure if there are injuries at play, but if not I'm a bit surprised he isn't making the cut. I've only saw him play a handful of times, but he stood out in the A team last year. Heard he looked very impressive with Ireland U19 as well.

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by rocky » Mon Jan 20, 2020 6:13 pm

he's in the overall sevens squad of about 20, which includes a development team, but hasn't broken into the main squad - probably because Jordan Conroy is their current speedster and very quick indeed.
That being the case, it does seem surprising that he isn't in the Ireland U20 squad for the 6N.
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Amiga500 » Mon Jan 20, 2020 7:32 pm

MightyRearranger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:05 pm
He's been our best back three player this season, as things stand his place in our first XV should be fairly nailed on. I'm slightly suprised that nobody is talking about him with respect to the Ireland team, i think he's playing well enough and with Earls in such bad form and Kearney not in the squad two of the places are up for grabs.
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Bobbievee » Mon Jan 20, 2020 10:18 pm

Rumn was a prop!
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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by Neill_M » Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:40 pm

Treadwell cited, hearing on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/sta ... 50785?s=20

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by justinr73 » Tue Jan 21, 2020 2:30 pm

He recklessly allowed the other fella to shoulder charge him.

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Re: Ulster v Bath

Post by big mervyn » Tue Jan 21, 2020 4:12 pm

Neill_M wrote:
Tue Jan 21, 2020 1:40 pm
Treadwell cited, hearing on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/sta ... 50785?s=20


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