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Marcell Speculation

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by Neill_M » Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:47 pm

Under contract till end of 21/22 season, he may well head South after that. If the Bulls have hard currency, they could buy out the final year of his deal next summer etc.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by Snipe Watson » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:20 pm

Who is surprised that teams are expressing interest in the most destructive player in the league?

Jake White is no mug and has a track record of playing the long game.

I don't think anyone in rugby has a surfeit of cash to buy out anyone's contract.

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Post by UlsterNo9 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:51 pm

Pretty much what Snipe says with players of Marcells quality there will always be demand. Good luck to anyone that wants to buy him out of a 450-500k per season contract.

A reporter could ask any professional coach in the world would they be interested in a player such as Marcell, said coach would readily agree and the reporter write an article on it.

Whether the Bulls or any other Saffer team have the funds to entice him home remains to be seen, Super Rugby teams do not have the finances of Europe hence why Marcell and the likes are here in the first place. South Africa as a place to live has certainly not improved since he departed.

My bets is that after 6 years here the IRFU may tell Ulster to get stuffed if looking for another contract for him, he will no doubt also be linked with a few French clubs. Marcell will also most like throw petrol on the fire by advising he has not decided what he wants to do at the end of his contract in order to drive the best deal he can get for himself.

Lets just enjoy him whilst we have him.
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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by UlsterNo9 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:02 pm

Marcell will also be 31 on 8th May 2022, his contract will expire soon after, I think I'm correct in saying IRFU don't offer contracts longer than 1 year extensions beyond 30? Open to correction.

With a player with Marcells injury profile if fit and healthy come then if he were offered the security of a 3 year deal elsewhere he'd be a fool not to give it serious thought.

We' also need to do what is right for Ulster in 18 months time where will young McCann, Rea Jr, Allison and Carruthers be at in the pecking order?
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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by solidarity » Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:15 pm

Don't talk about it, don't talk about it. If you talk about it, it makes it happen. Performative language, it's called.

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Post by BR » Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:48 am

I heard he had a bad back or a dependent mother or something. He'll be away next season. It's the Ulster way.
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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by germcevoy » Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:16 pm

Freeing up his £450k contract must be looking pretty attractive to head office in Dublin.

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Post by jean valjean » Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:06 pm

I'd be more worried about Henderson whose contract is up next year. Irfu will be praying on players preference to stay in Ireland and u can expect hendo will be a sacrificed if they feel baird is up to it. With a young family to support a big contract in France may be tempting.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by Neill_M » Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:26 pm

germcevoy wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:16 pm
Freeing up his £450k contract must be looking pretty attractive to head office in Dublin.
Is Coetzee getting £450k/year? Pienaar was on £330k/year, if I recall right.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by justinr73 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:09 pm

jean valjean wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 8:06 pm
I'd be more worried about Henderson whose contract is up next year. Irfu will be praying on players preference to stay in Ireland and u can expect hendo will be a sacrificed if they feel baird is up to it. With a young family to support a big contract in France may be tempting.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by germcevoy » Sat Dec 05, 2020 3:10 pm

Neill_M wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 11:26 pm
germcevoy wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:16 pm
Freeing up his £450k contract must be looking pretty attractive to head office in Dublin.
Is Coetzee getting £450k/year? Pienaar was on £330k/year, if I recall right.
That’s the number doing the rounds. Worth every penny.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by Lurgan Lad » Sat Dec 05, 2020 6:44 pm

Think realistically any province or club that doesn't have the support of a sugar daddy is at danger of loving players. Not sure how the salary cap in England works, is it an arbitrary agreed figure or is it based on income and the like? I think the most obvious cost cutting measure for the IRFU is dispensing of any NIQs on big salaries when their contracts expire, I guess Munster have got lucky with when they signed theirs. Marcell will almost definitely be gone when his contract expires, I guess enjoy him while he's here, think Hendo I would like to think will be looked after.

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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by bangorboy » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:23 pm

Confirmed off to Bulls next season.
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Re: Marcell Speculation

Post by jean valjean » Fri Dec 25, 2020 8:31 pm

bangorboy wrote:Confirmed off to Bulls next season.
Is that before or after the rainbow Cup?

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