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Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:33 pm
by Jackie Brown
What international was that?
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:37 pm
by Starsky
Hogg
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:42 pm
by jean valjean
I had wondered given his abrasive style what would happen if he picked up another injury between now and June? Assume it would be the same as his original move when he picked up a knee injury before joining us. Sincerly hope it doesn't happen for everyone's sake but am assuming he goes no matter what state he is in.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:46 pm
by Dave
Dark times for Ulster. A cowboy as head coach and a CEO who...well let's just say he did far worse than that in the end.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:47 pm
by justinr73
There’s a nuanced and mature article written by JB regarding the matter on the BT website today.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:42 pm
by Dharper
Decent article and perfectly reasonable. Give me a MC tearing it up for a few yrs over some of the tom kite we’ve signed over the yrs, and kept beyond when we should (and I include Ulster men in that). It wasn’t so long ago we were linked with Lima soananga at 10......the guys been frankly embarrassing at wasps and only recently got in the team at 15.
Where would we have been without MC? A damn sight poorer in Europe the last few yrs, certainly not back to back qs. No pro 14 final either. The guys been worth every penny.
MC hasnt been responsible for a poorly run organisation, poor academy, poor talent identification. We are still suffering a legacy of that, even IF, I’m uncertain those talent pathways have improved. It’s a professional sport, it’s a career, MC is a saffer.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:35 pm
by Cap'n Grumpy
Starsky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:37 pmHogg
IIRC, Ulster didn't approach Hogg. Hogg approached Ulster behind his employer's back. I'm told he even paid his own airfare to Belfast and ensured he was photographed here. I cannot be certain that was fully true though.
Ulster had next to zero interest in him, and Hogg was using Ulster to inflate his own bargaining position in the hope of a higher salary with a new contract with his employer at that time.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 3:41 pm
by Starsky
There could some truth to that Cap’n but I can’t remember a photo emerging apart from my poor quality one of the back of his head in the Stormont Hotel
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There must have been some interest from Ulster though, otherwise incredibly naive on their part to be used in that way.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:27 pm
by Dave
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 5:58 pm
by UlsterNo9
Pretty sure Marcell is in the same bunker Shame Logan made his final adresses in
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:05 pm
by Cormac
What's the view on David McCann as MC's long-term replacement? Thought he was superb in a truncated season for Ireland U-20's. Looked one of the most promising players in a decent crop.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:30 pm
by Amiga500
Ah, can't blame the fella to be honest. If I were in his boots, I'd likely do the same.
All the die-hards who'd have you believe they would continue* to play for a team halfway across the world when the rest of their family wants you home need to cop on.
*with offers on the table from employers close to home.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:53 pm
by big mervyn
Amiga500 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:30 pm
Ah, can't blame the fella to be honest. If I were in his boots, I'd likely do the same.
All the die-hards who'd have you believe they would continue* to play for a team halfway across the world when the rest of their family wants you home need to cop on.
*with offers on the table from employers close to home.
There's a fair few here who have close family working and living abroad. Why are highly paid southern hemisphere pro rugby players so feckin precious about it?
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:41 pm
by Dave
You're not supposed to have offers on the table if you're under contract. That's the protection a contract gives a team. I wonder which came first the offer from the Bulls or the homesickness?
So anyway time to move on. Unless you're under contract, no wait that doesn't matter two fcuks now.
A replacement will hopefully be found. However, if say six months into the new player's contract he says he is homesick or something to do with Covid then he knocks on Petrie's door. Will those buying this sob story, also afford the same sympathy? I would like to state my dissatisfaction for the record should this scenario represent itself.
Re: Marcell Speculation
Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:57 pm
by justinr73
I’d drive him back to New Zealand myself.