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Post by Bobbievee » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:33 pm

is it my imagination, or have drop goals disappeared from top flight rugby this season. And if so, why? Rumn must have a theory


And Merv, can you tell us when the last UR dropped goal was?

and more difficult, when was the last unsuccessful attempt?

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Post by Bart S » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:39 pm

Some great questions!

Davy Hump used to like a few. Didn't I Hump drop a long one at Thomond Park in the 2012 qf win at Munster?

Can't remember any more recent ones.

Top 3 memorable ones at international level :-
Jonny Wilkinson 2003 rwc final
Johnny Sexton in Paris 2018
Jannie de Beer - was it 5 against england in the 99 qf?

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Re: drop goals

Post by Neill_M » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:47 pm

Think it was Bledisloe Cup Game 1 this year which finished in a draw, both the Kiwis and Aussies had plenty chance to win game with simple drop goal, but only thought about scoring a try.

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Post by Dave » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:01 am

It used to be a thing in Irish rugby. ROG was the king. Sexton in 2018 against France was one of the best in recent memory. Could be a stats thing where someone has looked at the data and percentage wise they're not worth it so much.
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Post by austintranslation » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:04 am

I think Ulster's last drop goal was Paddy Jackson against Exeter in 2016. Happy to be corrected.

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Post by justinr73 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:09 am

I think you’re right.

Traded them with GS iirc.

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Post by austintranslation » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:10 am

Dave wrote:It used to be a thing in Irish rugby. ROG was the king. Sexton in 2018 against France was one of the best in recent memory. Could be a stats thing where someone has looked at the data and percentage wise they're not worth it so much.
There's a fella on twatter called Brendon Shields who will be looking at the success rate of sides in drop goal territory (a ruck two metres either side of the posts and inside the 22) four phases after entry to the drop goal territory during the 2021 Six Nations.

I love a wee drop goal but I suspect the results will work against it otherwise more teams would try it. It should be interesting either way.

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Re: drop goals

Post by UlsterNo9 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:18 am

My ten cents
There was, however, time for one final restart, which Ulster, just as the Dragons had done seconds earlier, managed to secure and build upon. Aggressive running from Pienaar in particular brought the Ulstermen to within kicking distance of the posts, but with Jackson off and Pienaar momentarily at the bottom of a pile of bodies after releasing the ball, there was no recognisable kicker available. Ulster intelligently held fire, recycling well until the scrum-half was in position, and his strike was the sweetest of the night, as the drop goal edged Ulster to victory.

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Re: drop goals

Post by justinr73 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:23 am

Well you should have listened to Austin and me then!

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Post by UlsterNo9 » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:24 am

Most drop goals in a game scored by an Ulster player?

David Humphreys
4 Drop goals
Vs London Irish (01/02)

Ironic Ulsters best out half is currently playing for London Irish
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Re: drop goals

Post by Off the Top » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:46 am

Ironic that Ireland's best out half is currently playing for London Irish!

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Re: drop goals

Post by big mervyn » Sat Dec 19, 2020 1:13 am

Pretty sure PJ's last gasp winner v Exeter was the last successful one alright.

Was Bill Johnson's last ditch attempt v Ospreys in Feb this year the last unsuccessful one?

Last one scored against Ulster was Camille Lopez for Clermont last January.

The previous one was Duncan Weir to clinch that dramatic 17-16 win for Embra at Ravenhill in Feb 2018.
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Re: drop goals

Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:47 pm

Bart S wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:39 pm
Didn't I Hump drop a long one at Thomond Park in the 2012 qf win at Munster?
He did, but McGlock made him clean it up himself.
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:51 pm

Bobbievee wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:33 pm
and more difficult, when was the last unsuccessful attempt?
Did Bill Johnston miss one against Cheatahs last season?
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:53 pm

And of course Ruan scored a last gasp winner against Dragons(???) but I think that was prior to 2012. He scored last gasp winners in three consecutive matches, but IIRC the other two were penalties.
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