Ulster ‘A’ v Leinster ‘A’ Fri 15th Jan 3pm KO Live on BBC iPlayer and BBC Sport NI website

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Re: Ulster ‘A’ v Leinster ‘A’ Fri 15th Jan 3pm KO Live on BBC iPlayer and BBC Sport NI website

Post by turko » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:38 pm

rumncoke wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:47 am
No its not -- watch Jackson or Ruan the arm movement is minimal the firmness and sureness of their pass comes from their wrists.

The same thing is true in golf -- the power of the shot is provided by timing the use of the wrists.
Why don’t you watch Aron Smith, some might say the best in the world. Can’t remember him mentioning the wrists.
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Post by Bobbievee » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:59 am

Now I have a real dilemma.
Do I listen to the All blacks scrum half and the Lions scrum half...........OR Rumn?

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Post by rumncoke » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:50 pm

both Bobby --- because the arms give the pass direction

my father proved it to me once on the 4th or 5th hole at Fortwilliam he hit a ball using both arms and then hit a ball using one -- there was little difference in the distance the balls went but the one using both arms was straighter, now granted me dad was a time served mechanic in the days before power tools and had extremely strong wrists.
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Post by justinr73 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:05 pm

Did he mention anything about his stance, rotation of the body and transference of weight?

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Post by Bobbievee » Tue Jan 26, 2021 6:40 pm

rumncoke wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:50 pm
both Bobby --- because the arms give the pass direction

my father proved it to me once on the 4th or 5th hole at Fortwilliam he hit a ball using both arms and then hit a ball using one -- there was little difference in the distance the balls went but the one using both arms was straighter, now granted me dad was a time served mechanic in the days before power tools and had extremely strong wrists.

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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:06 am

rumncoke wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:36 pm
He also needs to learn to pass with his wrists rather than swing with his arms .

The power in a pass comes from the wrists -- the arms only provide direction.

For those who disbelieve try passing with out using your wrists and using arms only -- you'll lob the ball in the air towards the person.
This is obviously so self evident, I don't think there's anything to discuss here.

Just look at every great tennis champion - before they became great tennis players, they were all great badminton players.

no . . . wait . . . :scratch:
rumncoke wrote:
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both Bobby --- because the arms give the pass direction

my father proved it to me once on the 4th or 5th hole at Fortwilliam he hit a ball using both arms and then hit a ball using one
That's where I was going wrong when I tried to play golf - I used golf sticks instead of my arms. :oops:
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... now granted me dad was a time served mechanic in the days before power tools and had extremely strong wrists.
You really think that was why he had strong wrists? >ES
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Post by rumncoke » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:20 pm

Captain have you ever tried to undo a rusty tight bolt with a spanner believe me it takes a strong wrist and application of pressure the right way and time. Its hard work. A spanner is not a wheel brace its short with very little leverage.
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Post by 10 or 15 only » Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:45 pm

.... even tried WD40 :duck:

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Post by mea97mb » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:31 pm

rumncoke wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:47 am
No its not -- watch Jackson or Ruan the arm movement is minimal the firmness and sureness of their pass comes from their wrists.

The same thing is true in golf -- the power of the shot is provided by timing the use of the wrists.
This is complete an utter nonsense (like the rest of the post), the power in a golf swing does not come from the wrists, not even slightly. The power in a golf swing is entirely down to the rotation of the hips and upper body with the rest of the body following. At no point should you flick your wrists during a golf swing, in fact the wrists should remain neutral to maintain stability in the swing and accuracy.

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Post by justinr73 » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:49 pm

I think we can safely assume that Rum’s dad wasn’t John Jacobs.

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Post by big mervyn » Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:39 pm

Rum ❤ One off the wrist
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Post by volvo » Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:19 pm

As much as it is enjoyable to a point surely we are getting a bit >Off_Topic_Man
New topic should be started by a nominated expert of the art and dedicated to 5 knuckle shuffle, or 10 knuckle shuffle
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:33 pm

mea97mb wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:31 pm
rumncoke wrote:
Mon Jan 25, 2021 11:47 am
No its not -- watch Jackson or Ruan the arm movement is minimal the firmness and sureness of their pass comes from their wrists.

The same thing is true in golf -- the power of the shot is provided by timing the use of the wrists.
This is complete an utter nonsense (like the rest of the post), the power in a golf swing does not come from the wrists, not even slightly. The power in a golf swing is entirely down to the rotation of the hips and upper body with the rest of the body following. At no point should you flick your wrists during a golf swing, in fact the wrists should remain neutral to maintain stability in the swing and accuracy.
Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. (Archimedes) Something along those lines anyway.

Same principle roughly as to why golfers use different lengths of golf sticks. The longer ones act as the longer lever and give more hitting power.

I don't think anyone has yet found yer Greek guy's subsequent suggestion, "Give me a lever long enough, a fulcrum on which to place it, and with a flick of my extra strong wrists, I shall move the world."

Maybe it's lying undiscovered in a Greek urn somewhere, though.
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:33 pm

volvo wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:19 pm
As much as it is enjoyable to a point surely we are getting a bit >Off_Topic_Man
New topic should be started by a nominated expert of the art and dedicated to 5 knuckle shuffle, or 10 knuckle shuffle
Can we have nominations :stir: Only saying like!
NAH!!! :lol:
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Post by solidarity » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:14 pm

Truly legendary wrist action: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EKaflXTzHw Ginger Baker

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