Are we allowed to talk about KINGSPAN

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Are we allowed to talk about KINGSPAN

Post by Cockatrice » Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:55 pm

Ongoing issues connected to Grenfell but listening to a senior manager tonight on TV and he can’t seem to remember who he spoke to and what he as told ....

It’s Ravenhill we should go back to using it
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Post by Snipe Watson » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:15 pm

I never called it anything else.
'Can't recall' is of course the classic response.
Kingspan are going to be carrying the can for a lot of this and rightly so given the way they are alleged to have behaved. Remains to be seen what charges they are hit with, but they are corporately and individually going to incur massive penalties.

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Post by big mervyn » Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:41 pm

Don't think the K word has ever passed my lips in any Ravenhill related context.
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Post by Snipe Watson » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:17 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:41 pm
Don't think the K word has ever passed my lips in any Ravenhill related context.
Well they didn't give either of us any cash inducement to call it anything but Ravenhill.

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Re: Are we allowed to talk about KINGSPAN

Post by Jackie Brown » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:35 pm

What messages were sent in their group chat? That's what really matters here.
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Re: Are we allowed to talk about KINGSPAN

Post by Bobbievee » Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:46 pm

Are any of these specific K products used in Ravenhill?


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Post by Cockatrice » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:37 am

And yet they seemingly passed judgement on the morals of two innocent rugby players.
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Post by rumncoke » Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:44 pm

Kingspan make insulation not cladding and have stated only 5% of the materials were their product ..

They're defence is already in the public domaine -- whether it will be sufficient to save their skins is another matter -- but it will no doubt affect the commercial sales of their products.

Like most public enquires of this nature I expect the final report to a that of a shot gun rather than a single bullet ie the blame will be spread to such an extent that nobody can be charged or sued wit any hope of achieving a worthwhile settlement.

And in the end the only people making money are the legal profession -- and the public are no longer interested because the report will come out 5- 6 years after the event and will no longer be front page news having been forgotten due to many more recent events.
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Post by Roidster » Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:20 pm

BBC Sounds app have a weekly podcast covering the Grenfell Tower inquiry. A very difficult listen at times but interesting to hear how these companies rigged safety tests and put profit over safety. Allegedly....

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Post by Snipe Watson » Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:41 pm

rumncoke wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:44 pm
Kingspan make insulation not cladding and have stated only 5% of the materials were their product ..
It's not about percentages Rumn.
It's about identifying what caused the fire to spread so rapidly.
If it turns out that it was their 5% and you set that alongside allegedly bogus fire retardant reports, it's painting a damning picture for a prosecution QC to make hay with in any proceedings that follow the enquiry.

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Post by Marco » Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:57 pm

Dangerous territory this guys, justsaying, my advice, leave it to the legals, serious stuff!

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Post by Bobbievee » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:29 pm

>appl

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Post by Snipe Watson » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:11 am

It's all allegedly and info already in the public domain.

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Re: Are we allowed to talk about KINGSPAN

Post by Bobbievee » Wed Feb 10, 2021 7:04 am

Mostly, but posters would need to be careful about expressing personal opinions on KS

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