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US special envoy

Post by Bobbievee » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:00 pm

Congratulations :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: to one of our finest......Trevor Ringland.

A fair and decent Ulsterman , in all ways, through and through.

A hell of a job mind you, in stemming the tide of republican propaganda and deliberately pedalled myths in the USA, but absolutely right to try

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Well done that man

( and I say this even though he represented the "other side`" when I was claiming personal injury damages after a hefty car accident!!!!)

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Post by big mervyn » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:15 pm

Bobbievee wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:00 pm
Congratulations :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: to one of our finest......Trevor Ringland.

A fair and decent Ulsterman , in all ways, through and through.

A hell of a job mind you, in stemming the tide of republican propaganda and deliberately pedalled myths in the USA, but absolutely right to try

:fleg: :red: :fleg: :red:

Well done that man

( and I say this even though he represented the "other side`" when I was claiming personal injury damages after a hefty car accident!!!!)
Ballix. Who does Ringland speak for? Nobody. He's allowing himself to be a Tory propaganda tool (probably in exchange for another gong) and in the process is making an absolute eejit of himself.
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Re: US special envoy

Post by Bobbievee » Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:21 pm

What is this Tory propaganda? To what end?
maybe that 60 per cent of the people in "the North" want to remain British?

why is that propaganda? Do you know what the word means?

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Post by Lurgan Lad » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:29 pm

If he makes life better for people in Northern Ireland that is really all you can ask for. Good luck to him.

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Post by Big-al » Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:43 pm

Convince US business to invest a few £££££££ into NI & he can do whatever he likes.

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Post by Kofi Annan » Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:29 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:15 pm
Bobbievee wrote:
Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:00 pm
Congratulations :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: to one of our finest......Trevor Ringland.

A fair and decent Ulsterman , in all ways, through and through.

A hell of a job mind you, in stemming the tide of republican propaganda and deliberately pedalled myths in the USA, but absolutely right to try

:fleg: :red: :fleg: :red:

Well done that man

( and I say this even though he represented the "other side`" when I was claiming personal injury damages after a hefty car accident!!!!)
Ballix. Who does Ringland speak for? Nobody. He's allowing himself to be a Tory propaganda tool (probably in exchange for another gong) and in the process is making an absolute eejit of himself.
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Post by Dave » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:12 pm

Good man, Trev. Bring it home. Make us all millionaires by telling the yanks the brits are the good guys. That will go down great with the dum dums thinking they're all at least 2/17th Eyeerrrish.

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Post by UlsterNo9 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:32 pm

Ah yes....... and so it begins.

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Re: US special envoy

Post by Dave » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:36 pm


Bobbievee wrote: To what end?
maybe that 60 per cent of the people in "the North" want to remain British?
If 60% percent of the brits in the North want to remain brits, that isn't a good stat for them. I suppose the other 40% wish to be pan-european.
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Re: US special envoy

Post by Bobbievee » Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:48 pm

I said 60 per cent of the people.....not 60 per cent of the Brits?

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Post by Dave » Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:45 pm

You wrote 'remain British', therefore they would have to be British to remain so.
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Post by big mervyn » Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm

Difficult to stand over 60% in the current climate without a proper debate and referendum.

You could also argue that some may wish to remain in the UK but still consider themselves to be Irish. It's very complicated.

All that aside, I'm not sure how much traction Mr Ringland will have in the US. The current administration hold the GFA and subsequent devolved administration in some regard and he lacks legitimacy in this respect. The rugby exploits won't cut much ice over there either.
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Post by Snipe Watson » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:37 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm
Difficult to stand over 60% in the current climate without a proper debate and referendum.

You could also argue that some may wish to remain in the UK but still consider themselves to be Irish. It's very complicated.

All that aside, I'm not sure how much traction Mr Ringland will have in the US. The current administration hold the GFA and subsequent devolved administration in some regard and he lacks legitimacy in this respect. The rugby exploits won't cut much ice over there either.
I suspect Ringland will have little impact.

On the other point. I would suggest that the financial realities of a united Ireland will focus a lot of minds north and south. Once you get beyond the entrenched Nationalists and dreamers, a wide tranche of pragmatists will view unification as a pipe dream.

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Post by big mervyn » Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:43 pm

Just found out he's a Tory boy. I thought he was aligned with the liberal wing of the UUP.

Selected by Brandon Lewis , a man with zero emapthy for NI or it's people, unlike his predecessor who did actually seem to have our interests at heart.
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Post by Dave » Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:53 pm

big mervyn wrote:Just found out he's a Tory boy. I thought he was aligned with the liberal wing of the UUP.

Selected by Brandon Lewis , a man with zero emapthy for NI or it's people, unlike his predecessor who did actually seem to have our interests at heart.
He's very keen to impress his tory masters, as he's not even getting paid for the role (according to reports).
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