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loyality to club or fame and fortune.

Post by Vanhelsing » Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:20 pm

Young Rugby players starting Pro Rugby,members of the forum what are your thoughts,loyality to your first club as a Pro and then go for the big pay days and fame and fortune in a new club, or stay with your first pro club?

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Post by justinr73 » Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:12 pm

Life is a bit more complicated than that.

Even Preston North End legend Sir Tom Finney was tempted by a big-money move to Italy back in the day but PNE told him to forget about it.

You'd like to think that someone like Hendy (as a reasonably well-paid international with a settled family life and a faint sniff of actually winning something) would stick around at Ulster in the Rory Best mould, but many players don't have those luxuries.

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Post by big mervyn » Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:39 pm

Difficult to expect loyalty in the pro game when club and country will invariably give little or none in return.
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Post by solidarity » Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:21 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:39 pm
Difficult to expect loyalty in the pro game when club and country will invariably give little or none in return.
If rugby is going the way of football, there will be no such thing as club loyalty among players. Hopefully it will be a while before we get there. In professional sport the only people with club loyalty is among fans.

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Post by nonplussed » Fri Jun 18, 2021 12:50 pm

Its a job after all, and after time most of us fancy a change, moving to a better company with better prospects and remuneration. Pro sports people are exactly the same. The pro clubs couldn't spell loyalty so its unfair to expect the same from players who's career is short.

Also, some players like Ian Whitten, Tommy Seymour, Callum Patterson et al could've sat around knowing opportunities were going to be limited, but decided to push themselves and move on. Whitten is a serial trophy winner, Seymour a Lion and Callum has cult status with the Pirates and getting regular game time and to a man have all done the right thing.

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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:35 am

Let's ask this, "If you were doing a well paid job that you loved and someone offered you the chance to do it more, climb the promotion ladder and get paid a bigger salary, would you consider it?

Possibly the most important reason you might have for turning it down would be for family reasons if you had to move from home. One of the most important reason for accepting would probably also be for family reasons in order to provide for your family's future.

It's a professional sport now - I would suggest that loyalty to family would have a massive say in the equation, not just loyalty to club/province.

Much as I would love all our Ulster players to stay and represent their province, I wouldn't blame any of them for taking a bigger pay cheque or an alternative employer if it were offered, especially if their game time may be limited due to Ulster squad age and dynamics.
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:37 am

Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 9:35 am
I wouldn't blame any of them for taking a bigger pay cheque or an alternative employer if it were offered, especially if their game time may be limited due to Ulster squad age and dynamics.
Unless it was to sign for Leinster or Sorries of course, :lol:

but that ain't likely to happen any time soon, if ever. :roll:
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Post by solidarity » Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:44 pm

Think of this the other way round, a fair number of players have come to Ulster, rather than staying with their 'home' clubs. It's a way of life now.

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