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TMHG wrote:

Dave wrote:A fourteen year old girl is not considered as having the capacity to make an informed decision on sexual consent. Any suggestion from you or anyone of a 'level of consent' is completely wrong. A 16 year old is a different story.

I'm out too. This is becoming progressively weirder.

Not in the ROI - 17 is the legal age of consent (Its 16 in the UK).

Under Section 3 of the Criminal Law (Sex Offences) Act 2006 as amended by Section 5 of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Act 2007 it is a criminal offence to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 17 years of age. It is not a defence to show that the child consented to the sexual act. However, the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 recognises the reality of under age, consensual, peer relationships through the introduction of a ‘proximity of age’ defence. Under this provision, a person charged with an offence of engaging in a sexual act with a person between the ages of 15 and 17 years can use consent as a defence if the person charged is younger or is less than two years older. They must not be in authority over the child or be intimidatory or exploitative.

The consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions is required for any prosecution of a child under the age of 17 years for this offence. A girl under the age of 17 who has sexual intercourse may not be convicted of an offence on that ground alone.

It is an offence for a person in authority to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 18 years of age.

Jackie Brown wrote:Can 14yr olds consent?

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TMHG wrote:

Dave wrote:A fourteen year old girl is not considered as having the capacity to make an informed decision on sexual consent. Any suggestion from you or anyone of a 'level of consent' is completely wrong. A 16 year old is a different story.

I'm out too. This is becoming progressively weirder.

Not in the ROI - 17 is the legal age of consent (Its 16 in the UK).

Under Section 3 of the Criminal Law (Sex Offences) Act 2006 as amended by Section 5 of the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) (Amendment) Act 2007 it is a criminal offence to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 17 years of age. It is not a defence to show that the child consented to the sexual act. However, the Criminal Law (Sexual Offences) Act 2017 recognises the reality of under age, consensual, peer relationships through the introduction of a ‘proximity of age’ defence. Under this provision, a person charged with an offence of engaging in a sexual act with a person between the ages of 15 and 17 years can use consent as a defence if the person charged is younger or is less than two years older. They must not be in authority over the child or be intimidatory or exploitative.

The consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions is required for any prosecution of a child under the age of 17 years for this offence. A girl under the age of 17 who has sexual intercourse may not be convicted of an offence on that ground alone.

It is an offence for a person in authority to engage or attempt to engage in a sexual act with a child under 18 years of age.

TMHG wrote:No, I'm not and I don't know how you got that idea. Statutory rape occurs when an adult (legally in ROI 17+) has sex with a minor (someone under the age of 17 in ROI).

Dave wrote:[Consent is irrelevant. No one, apart from you is suggesting consent. Not the complainant and not the accused, who pleaded GUILTY. At 16, he was well above the age of criminal responsibility. Stop making excuses for this. The victim impact states that she had suicidal thoughts and was prescribed antidepressants following this. It was a despicable crime in which a 14 year old girl was raped, defiled and abused on several different occasions.

Russ wrote:

TMHG wrote:No, I'm not and I don't know how you got that idea. Statutory rape occurs when an adult (legally in ROI 17+) has sex with a minor (someone under the age of 17 in ROI).

Statutory rape is sexual intercourse with a minor

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TMHG wrote:

Russ wrote:

TMHG wrote:No, I'm not and I don't know how you got that idea. Statutory rape occurs when an adult (legally in ROI 17+) has sex with a minor (someone under the age of 17 in ROI).

Statutory rape is sexual intercourse with a minor

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Yes. By an adult (someone who is 17+ in ROI - 16+ in NI/UK).

TMHG wrote:

Dave wrote:[Consent is irrelevant. No one, apart from you is suggesting consent. Not the complainant and not the accused, who pleaded GUILTY. At 16, he was well above the age of criminal responsibility. Stop making excuses for this. The victim impact states that she had suicidal thoughts and was prescribed antidepressants following this. It was a despicable crime in which a 14 year old girl was raped, defiled and abused on several different occasions.

I don't think he actually raped her - it was one of the others who defiled her and he is guilty of watching on. Because of the blackout on reporting on sexual cases in ROI, we don't actually know what happened, but from what he was charged with, I think his charge was attempted defilement or something like that.

I'm not making excuses. The law says that the age of consent is 17 in ROI. He was 16 (so also a minor at the time and within 2 years of the girls age) so was treated differently as to how an adult (17+) would have been dealt with.

The claim has been made that no one has complained about Akinade - but, although regarded as a very good footballer, he has had 3 different clubs in the last couple of years which suggests he might be too hot to handle.

https://www.change.org/p/waterford-foot ... zy-akinade