English Premiership 2019/20

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Neill_M » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:18 pm

11 team championship this year with winner getting promotion. Relegation from Premiership scrapped for 20/21 season.

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Sun Feb 21, 2021 6:13 am

If you move your shoulder when preparing to take a conversion, that is your run-up started - Discuss!

I think I've only seen that once or twice before, with ref ordering a re-take and no charge at the kicker/ball.

Interestingly, Rob Baxter had "no complaints" about the decision, seemingly putting the blame for the defeat on his own players.
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by rumncoke » Sun Feb 21, 2021 10:21 am

I'd place it in the same category as a scrum half standing over a ball in the ruck and faking a lift to catch players offside

Personally far to many kickers have an excessive pre-kick routine --Jonny Wilkinson and there was a welsh man a few years back who really took it to extremes .

Thus to an extent if you consider the run to be a pre kick routine then so is shoulder movement etc if that is part of your routine it's as much pre as the run up.

Let's change it to something like the NFL -- a three man sequence passer catcher'placer kicker with the charge starting on the pass the kick to be taken in front of the posts anywhere between 10 metre and and 22 . The charge being from the 5 metre line . and stuff the respect for the kicker . like WTF is that all-about. Like your for him or against him but one things sure few are neutral .
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by justinr73 » Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:03 pm

He wasn’t faking anything.

Looked a bit harsh to me based on the ref’s explanation that he moved his shoulder.

Approach means to get nearer. One could argue that he didn’t get any nearer to the ball so his approach hadn’t started.

EDIT - other footage shows a small step forward so it looks like the ref was right for the wrong reason.

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Snipe Watson » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:14 pm

Bizarre decision. Some kickers stand twitching for half a minute before running up to the ball!
Is this some new diktat from WR designed to speed up kicks? The Northampton players seemed to be aware of it.
Surely the common sense approach is that once he moves his feet, the run up has started.

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by big mervyn » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:16 pm

Snipe Watson wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:14 pm
Bizarre decision. Some kickers stand twitching for half a minute before running up to the ball!
Is this some new diktat from WR designed to speed up kicks? The Northampton players seemed to be aware of it.
Surely the common sense approach is that once he moves his feet, the run up has started.
That would always have been my understanding.
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by big mervyn » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:53 pm

I see Pirates beat Sarries
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by tigerburnie » Fri Apr 02, 2021 8:37 pm

Johnny McPhillips makes his first start at 10 for the Tigers in their home game against Connacht tomorrow evening.

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by solidarity » Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:11 pm

Go Johnny go.

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Bobbievee » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:14 pm

Excellent and all the very best to him.

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Post by Jackie Brown » Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:33 pm

Fantastic stuff!
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Hans Indaruck » Sat Apr 03, 2021 7:45 am

So that’s 3 ex Ulster 10s starting for Premiership clubs this weekend (Jackson, Herron and McPhillips) whilst perversely Ulster will have an ex Premiership 10 starting!!🤔
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by rumncoke » Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:27 am

One might say a premiership reject if one wanted to be unkind, but then there is only one out half who was not rejected by Ulster but rather spat on for a single "spit "
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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by tigerburnie » Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:52 pm

Johnny on the bench with Ford starting at 10 in Tigers visit to Bath

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Re: English Premiership 2019/20

Post by Dave » Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:04 pm

A wizard on the wing.
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