New Zealand Would Have Toured Nazi Germany

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Russ wrote:I don't see why those A matches cannot be denoted as test matches.

They are playing the tier 2 test side.

Bit like the so called wolf hounds in eastern europe this summer. Could easily have been classed as test matches

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But they are NOT the test team!

For example when Emerging Ireland were playing in Romania, our test side was in Argentina. (and the Wolfhounds were mosty in rehab ;) )
So?

Teams play weakened all the time.

This is the team Ireland chose to send, that's all

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Would they have sent that side if:

1) They hadn't also got a squad in Argentina
2) The match had been dsignated a test match and a defeat would be unacceptable(not so likely in the case of Emerging Ireland in Nations Cup as they were still dominant, but for the likes of Emerging Italy)

The concept of playing A and development sides is a long and (IMHO) a good one. I'd just like to see those counties that can afford it, doing more of it.
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Re: New Zealand Would Have Toured Nazi Germany

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BR wrote:
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:
Russ wrote:I don't see why those A matches cannot be denoted as test matches.

They are playing the tier 2 test side.

Bit like the so called wolf hounds in eastern europe this summer. Could easily have been classed as test matches

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But they are NOT the test team!

For example when Emerging Ireland were playing in Romania, our test side was in Argentina. (and the Wolfhounds were mosty in rehab ;) )
So?

Teams play weakened all the time.

This is the team Ireland chose to send, that's all

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Would they have sent that side if:

1) They hadn't also got a squad in Argentina
2) The match had been dsignated a test match and a defeat would be unacceptable(not so likely in the case of Emerging Ireland in Nations Cup as they were still dominant, but for the likes of Emerging Italy)

The concept of playing A and development sides is a long and (IMHO) a good one. I'd just like to see those counties that can afford it, doing more of it.
If they play other development sides

Playing an A side against a full test side in my opinion is massively disrespectful

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Russ wrote:
BR wrote:
Russ wrote:
BR wrote:
Russ wrote:I don't see why those A matches cannot be denoted as test matches.

They are playing the tier 2 test side.

Bit like the so called wolf hounds in eastern europe this summer. Could easily have been classed as test matches

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But they are NOT the test team!

For example when Emerging Ireland were playing in Romania, our test side was in Argentina. (and the Wolfhounds were mosty in rehab ;) )
So?

Teams play weakened all the time.

This is the team Ireland chose to send, that's all

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Would they have sent that side if:

1) They hadn't also got a squad in Argentina
2) The match had been dsignated a test match and a defeat would be unacceptable(not so likely in the case of Emerging Ireland in Nations Cup as they were still dominant, but for the likes of Emerging Italy)

The concept of playing A and development sides is a long and (IMHO) a good one. I'd just like to see those counties that can afford it, doing more of it.
If they play other development sides

Playing an A side against a full test side in my opinion is massively disrespectful

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We're talking about lower tier 2 and tier 3 nations playing in tournaments designed to develop their teams.

Sending a weakened/development side and pretending it is a test side is IMHO more disrespectful.
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I believe I attended Ireland's first ever B international in the late 70 s or early 80 s. They were then elevated to A internationals only to be downgraded to Wolfies after bloody England decided to become Saxons.
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BaggyTrousers wrote:I believe I attended Ireland's first ever B international in the late 70 s or early 80 s. They were then elevated to A internationals only to be downgraded to Wolfies after bloody England decided to become Saxons.
Strange in a way that England would take that name. They could have just gone for the England Germans altogether as it is pretty much the same thing.

On the other hand we could have taken the name Britons as most of us have more historical right to that than many of those in England.

So England Germans v Ireland Britons. Now that would be fun. :D
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We could also claim 'Scots' :)
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Scottish Power are a load of banker

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