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Shan wrote:
Rooster wrote:Thing is they are seriously fecked up down there anyway, sure they even have a minister in charge of the 1916 celebrations who is a Presbyterian.
Burn him. :D

Tis funny though - If ya want to know someone's religion ask someone from NI. Are you guys born with this talent or do youse have to work at it? :lol:
It's not hard Shan, Fenian's eyes are too close together .............ah shyte, maybe that's the Orange Basturds. Something like that anyway and if in doubt throw in a casual ould "ah, where do you live? And what school did you go to?" "Ah right yer a jaffa".
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The auld black bake is usually a giveaway for the burning bush mob, of course we're talking 1798 here, rather than thon new fangled 1916 failed rebellion >EW
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BaggyTrousers wrote:
Shan wrote:
Rooster wrote:Thing is they are seriously fecked up down there anyway, sure they even have a minister in charge of the 1916 celebrations who is a Presbyterian.
Burn him. :D

Tis funny though - If ya want to know someone's religion ask someone from NI. Are you guys born with this talent or do youse have to work at it? :lol:
It's not hard Shan, Fenian's eyes are too close together .............ah shyte, maybe that's the Orange Basturds. Something like that anyway and if in doubt throw in a casual ould "ah, where do you live? And what school did you go to?" "Ah right yer a jaffa".
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On the subject of Wee Mads and Rugby : There was great clamour made over he past couple of seasons by the Mexican faithful that Quiffy was being unfairly kept out of the 10 shirt and his career was being stifled by the selection of Jimmy Gopperth at fly half. I have watched Gopperth play for Wasps several times this season. He is a vastly superior FH to Quiffy in all aspects of play (except possibly goal kicking, and he's not bad at that either.) I'm not sure he was that far ahead of him in Dublin, but he is now. So maybe the coach was not such an eejit after all. Quiffy has not advanced at all this season.

BTW that Wasps backline has pace and skills to burn with the Piutau brothers, Wade, Daly and Halai. They are playing great stuff.
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Spiffsson wrote:On the subject of Wee Mads and Rugby : There was great clamour made over he past couple of seasons by the Mexican faithful that Quiffy was being unfairly kept out of the 10 shirt and his career was being stifled by the selection of Jimmy Gopperth at fly half. I have watched Gopperth play for Wasps several times this season. He is a vastly superior FH to Quiffy in all aspects of play (except possibly goal kicking, and he's not bad at that either.) I'm not sure he was that far ahead of him in Dublin, but he is now. So maybe the coach was not such an eejit after all. Quiffy has not advanced at all this season.

BTW that Wasps backline has pace and skills to burn with the Piutau brothers, Wade, Daly and Halai. They are playing great stuff.
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1916 would have a damp squib had the Government of the day kept its head and locked them up for the duration .

But no an OTT execution after a court martial served to make Heroes of them .

And the Irish have a love of dead heroes .

Whether it is taught in school or not is really not a valid point
Because like most history teachers can influence how it is perceived by the student .

There are so many books on the subject some a good balanced histories and many are not .

For an examination question 1916 has that wonderful gift where there is no correct answer because the answer depends on which side of the line you look at it .

From a SF view point it is seen as the birth of the nation and
nationalism which denies 1798 and other minor revolts and from a Brit point of view it was an act of Treason in time of war .

It also brought with a load of pointless baggage alien to 70 % of the population in various ways .




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Shinnerboots was all action on saturday
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rumncoke wrote:1916 would have a damp squib had the Government of the day kept its head and locked them up for the duration .

But no an OTT execution after a court martial served to make Heroes of them .

And the Irish have a love of dead heroes .

Whether it is taught in school or not is really not a valid point
Because like most history teachers can influence how it is perceived by the student .

There are so many books on the subject some a good balanced histories and many are not .

For an examination question 1916 has that wonderful gift where there is no correct answer because the answer depends on which side of the line you look at it .

From a SF view point it is seen as the birth of the nation and
nationalism which denies 1798 and other minor revolts and from a Brit point of view it was an act of Treason in time of war .

It also brought with a load of pointless baggage alien to 70 % of the population in various ways .




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a very good post Rum.
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Russ wrote:Shinnerboots was all action on saturday
He was playing fresh against a bunch of knackered Italian reserves who were already well humped.
A headless chicken is also all action.
Also, since he only ever seems to play 10 from the bench, his so-called versatility means nothing.
But I am admittedly biased, and want to see Jackson get a run.
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rumncoke wrote:1916 would have a damp squib had the Government of the day kept its head and locked them up for the duration .

But no an OTT execution after a court martial served to make Heroes of them .

And the Irish have a love of dead heroes .

Whether it is taught in school or not is really not a valid point
Because like most history teachers can influence how it is perceived by the student .

There are so many books on the subject some a good balanced histories and many are not .

For an examination question 1916 has that wonderful gift where there is no correct answer because the answer depends on which side of the line you look at it .

From a SF view point it is seen as the birth of the nation and
nationalism which denies 1798 and other minor revolts and from a Brit point of view it was an act of Treason in time of war .

It also brought with a load of pointless baggage alien to 70 % of the population in various ways .




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Rum the government of the day was at the helm of the largest empire the world had ever seen. Obtained through genocide, atrocitya and unspeakable cruelty.... Killing a few troublesome paddies was nothing really.
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Dave the paddies as you call them were also part of the government and a large portion of the army carrying out the deeds you complain about .

The only thing unique about the paddies they deny their part in it and think they were the people to suffer from the social attitudes of the times, absentee landlords , clearances ,the poor house etc .

The poor were treated the same were ever dispersed throughout the nation .

Unfortunately the Irish made a reputation for themselves where ever they went .

" No Irish " was not unique to GB but was a common sign in America and Canada and elsewhere .

But has little to do with Madigan playing for Ireland Other than the fact that your attitude to history can be formed by how you are taught or the related experiences of family and friends .

Once sat at a table of 8 to 10 friends during the early 70 s and everyone at the table knew at least one person who had been killed or injured .
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rumncoke wrote:Dave the paddies as you call them were also part of the government and a large portion of the army carrying out the deeds you complain about .

The only thing unique about the paddies they deny their part in it and think they were the people to suffer from the social attitudes of the times, absentee landlords , clearances ,the poor house etc .

The poor were treated the same were ever dispersed throughout the nation .

Unfortunately the Irish made a reputation for themselves where ever they went .

" No Irish " was not unique to GB but was a common sign in America and Canada and elsewhere .

But has little to do with Madigan playing for Ireland Other than the fact that your attitude to history can be formed by how you are taught or the related experiences of family and friends .

Once sat at a table of 8 to 10 friends during the early 70 s and everyone at the table knew at least one person who had been killed or injured .
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Shan is this true?


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/colum ... 98803.html

If so shame , shame on the Irish governments, for hiding the truth.
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Kofi Annan wrote:Shan is this true?


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/colum ... 98803.html

If so shame , shame on the Irish governments, for hiding the truth.
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Genocide
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