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Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:48 am
by big mervyn
Frank wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:34 am
big mervyn wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:36 am
shamalicious wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:06 pm
Frank, I have no doubt they will have been told by their employers to keep their mouths shut or face sanctions.
Employers have been threatening employees like that for generations. That's why we have unions.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ... (Ironically, the bloke who said that was from D4.)
"See how much we can change the world while we look the other way" -Slade the Leveller
Saw him perform with NMA at the SLF gig at CHSQ on Sat. Pick of the nigjt for me :thumleft:

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:33 am
by rumncoke
Frank i doubt if the employers had to tell them to keep their mouths shut given the reaction to Paddy's threat of court action and the media sh-t heaped on him.

If they put their heads above the trench -- they would become the social media target of the week.

Which is why I hope and prey the judge in Dublin comes down on the dragons like three tons of cow dung when Paddy's dad's case is finalised.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:58 am
by Frank
big mervyn wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:48 am
Frank wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:34 am
big mervyn wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:36 am
shamalicious wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:06 pm
Frank, I have no doubt they will have been told by their employers to keep their mouths shut or face sanctions.
Employers have been threatening employees like that for generations. That's why we have unions.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing ... (Ironically, the bloke who said that was from D4.)
"See how much we can change the world while we look the other way" -Slade the Leveller
Saw him perform with NMA at the SLF gig at CHSQ on Sat. Pick of the nigjt for me :thumleft:
Very jealous Merv.
You'd be surprised Rum

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:28 am
by Evil Kiwi
Joe's methods are not fit for purpose anymore. He's been found out. Other sides have him figured out tactically and he has no answers. His selections are questionable too. He cannot always expect Stockdale to win things for him.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:04 pm
by TMHG
rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:33 am
Frank i doubt if the employers had to tell them to keep their mouths shut given the reaction to Paddy's threat of court action and the media sh-t heaped on him.

If they put their heads above the trench -- they would become the social media target of the week.

Which is why I hope and prey the judge in Dublin comes down on the dragons like three tons of cow dung when Paddy's dad's case is finalised.
I'd imagine the players own individual sponsors (like Adidas, various car companies, Aldi/Lidl, Spar etc) were telling them to stay well out of it. IRUPA (the players union) stayed out of it, presumably because they represent women's rugby as well and have a lot of women support officers and they are now involved in delivering behavioural/consent courses to the pro players. Simon Keogh (IRUPA CEO) I think may have attended some of the trial but didn't comment on it.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:11 pm
by Jackie Brown
I don't need behavioural/consent classes in my job. Sounds like empty platitudes and tom kite to me.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:41 pm
by big mervyn
TMHG wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:04 pm
rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:33 am
Frank i doubt if the employers had to tell them to keep their mouths shut given the reaction to Paddy's threat of court action and the media sh-t heaped on him.

If they put their heads above the trench -- they would become the social media target of the week.

Which is why I hope and prey the judge in Dublin comes down on the dragons like three tons of cow dung when Paddy's dad's case is finalised.
I'd imagine the players own individual sponsors (like Adidas, various car companies, Aldi/Lidl, Spar etc) were telling them to stay well out of it. IRUPA (the players union) stayed out of it, presumably because they represent women's rugby as well and have a lot of women support officers and they are now involved in delivering behavioural/consent courses to the pro players. Simon Keogh (IRUPA CEO) I think may have attended some of the trial but didn't comment on it.
How many weemin do they represent? Not that it should be relevant. Found unanimously innocent and subsequently disgracefully treated by their employer. The Union should have been jumping up and down.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:20 pm
by TMHG
Jackie Brown wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:11 pm
I don't need behavioural/consent classes in my job. Sounds like empty platitudes and tom kite to me.
Funny enough, a programme that has been run as a pilot scheme is now being rolled out in secondary schools (Transition Year subject).
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingn ... 46381.html

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:23 pm
by TMHG
big mervyn wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:41 pm
TMHG wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:04 pm
rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:33 am
Frank i doubt if the employers had to tell them to keep their mouths shut given the reaction to Paddy's threat of court action and the media sh-t heaped on him.

If they put their heads above the trench -- they would become the social media target of the week.

Which is why I hope and prey the judge in Dublin comes down on the dragons like three tons of cow dung when Paddy's dad's case is finalised.
I'd imagine the players own individual sponsors (like Adidas, various car companies, Aldi/Lidl, Spar etc) were telling them to stay well out of it. IRUPA (the players union) stayed out of it, presumably because they represent women's rugby as well and have a lot of women support officers and they are now involved in delivering behavioural/consent courses to the pro players. Simon Keogh (IRUPA CEO) I think may have attended some of the trial but didn't comment on it.
How many weemin do they represent? Not that it should be relevant. Found unanimously innocent and subsequently disgracefully treated by their employer. The Union should have been jumping up and down.
Well, the Union was not jumping up and down. Here is a link to the Union. The board is chaired by a woman and there are two women on the board representing women's 15s and 7s. Interesting to see that Greg O'Shea, the 7s player from Limerick that won Love Island is on the Board.

https://www.rugbyplayersireland.ie/about/

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:11 pm
by rumncoke
The problem with a sexual relationship is that it is incremental and frequently wordless and follows a few glasses of best "knickerdropper"if to much is taken it becomes "willieflopper"

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:58 pm
by Shan
The IRFU should just sign up Rum to give classes on consent. What could possibly go wrong.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:45 pm
by shamalicious
Rum, you seriously have an unhealthy obsession with this topic.

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:57 am
by rumncoke
Its a bit like security at airports -- in some respects it totally useless -- anything is a weapon if you have been trained to use.

Most men are non violent 99% of the time but nearly everyone has the potential to be if the circumstances are wrong and what those circumstances are is anybody's guess .

Consent -- boy goes to collect girl at the door -- is his first question "are we shagging to-night?" --Life isn't like that --

It's not about consent -- "its self control"-- reading the situation --and walking away in time.

Sitting in a bar --and recognising its --the wrong bar -- that comes with experience -- self control comes first.

Its the wrong lesson .

A bit like high tackling -- the people being injured are tacklers not the tackled but its the tackler who is being penalised -- when frequently it is the ball carrier who is the guilty party -- running at his opponent with no intention to hand off or handoff illegally-- stiff-arm , elbow shoulder, or knee

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:10 am
by Frank
Rum are you Ian Holloway?

Re: Who cares about the Irish rugby team?

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:49 pm
by GLENN CORNICK
Classes on consent?

Rotheram is in dire need there, as are many English towns.

Oxford

Newcastle

Halifax

it's along old list