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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by justinr73 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:21 am

big mervyn wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:56 am
justinr73 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:42 am
Out of interest, where do you draw the line?

Green blood?

Born in Ireland (which would have shafted Heaslip, Murphy, Rob Henderson, Geoghegan and others)?
ROG would also have been excluded.

There should at least be a feckin line. One Irish parent as an absolute minimum requirement. Sole exception for anybody who has lived here from the age of say 12.

Maybe there should be an interview?

Can I... play for Ireland?

No. pi$h off.

I didn't want to talk like this. It's only an accent. I hate the English as much as anybody.

Shhhh. Shhhh. Shhh. Shh. Shhhh.

Stumm.

Are you sure?


Oh, dead sure. I hate the English already.

Listen. If you wanted to join the IRFU., you'd have to really hate the English.

I do!

Oh, yeah? How much?

A lot!

You're in
I think that all sounds reasonable enough.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Snipe Watson » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm

Jackie Brown wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:22 am
If Burns gets a start at 10 there's a case to be made for forfeiting the game.

Burns, Aki, Gibson Park, Lowe, Herring, Stander, Roux... Really a team of mercenaries. I'm a big Herring fan btw, but it's a joke any of them can claim to be Irish and play for the national team. The residency rule is a joke.
Do they claim to be Irish, or do they represent Ireland because they live here and have committed to Ireland?

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by UlsterNo9 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:46 pm

Snipe Watson wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm
Jackie Brown wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:22 am
If Burns gets a start at 10 there's a case to be made for forfeiting the game.

Burns, Aki, Gibson Park, Lowe, Herring, Stander, Roux... Really a team of mercenaries. I'm a big Herring fan btw, but it's a joke any of them can claim to be Irish and play for the national team. The residency rule is a joke.
Do they claim to be Irish, or do they represent Ireland because they live here and have committed to Ireland?
Burns and Herring qualify as both have an Irish born grandfather, not through residency if that sits better with you Jackie.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by big mervyn » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:41 pm

UlsterNo9 wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:46 pm
Snipe Watson wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:21 pm
Jackie Brown wrote:
Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:22 am
If Burns gets a start at 10 there's a case to be made for forfeiting the game.

Burns, Aki, Gibson Park, Lowe, Herring, Stander, Roux... Really a team of mercenaries. I'm a big Herring fan btw, but it's a joke any of them can claim to be Irish and play for the national team. The residency rule is a joke.
Do they claim to be Irish, or do they represent Ireland because they live here and have committed to Ireland?
Burns and Herring qualify as both have an Irish born grandfather, not through residency if that sits better with you Jackie.
I have an English born grandfather but I'm no more English than they are Irish.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Jackie Brown » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:16 pm

Not really, if Burns or Addison had been good enough for international rugby they'd have been capped by their country of birth.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by justinr73 » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:18 pm

My Grandad was Canadian and I spend a lot of time eating poutine whilst listening to Leonard Cohen.

His parents were supposed to head out on the Titanic apparently.

I’m kinda glad they didn’t.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by UlsterNo9 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:31 pm

Ireland (v England):

15. Hugo Keenan
14. Keith Earls
13. Chris Farrell
12. Bundee Aki
11. James Lowe
10. Ross Byrne
9. Jamison Gibson-Park

1. Cian Healy
2. Ronan Kelleher
3. Andrew Porter
4. Quinn Roux
5. James Ryan (captain)
6. CJ Stander
7. Peter O’Mahony
8. Caelan Doris

Replacements:

16. Rob Herring
17. Ed Byrne
18. Finlay Bealham
19. Iain Henderson
20. Will Connors
21. Conor Murray
22. Billy Burns
23. Jacob Stockdale

Referee: Pascal Gaüzère [FFR].
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by UlsterNo9 » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:48 pm

So starting XV

9 Leinster
4 Munster
2 Connacht

or

10 Irish
3 Kiwi
2 Saffer
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by big mervyn » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:20 pm

In an international context, Farrell is Ulster.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Dharper » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:47 pm

Good to see Stander 6, Doris 8.
POM had a good game v wales, now let see him back it up - will be interesting if he has the engine/speed for 7. Of note Leavys getting his game time up for Leinster and so far playing well - if he gets back to pre injury levels then he’s a starter all day long.
Add in IH on the bench and furlong/kilcoyne back, suddenly that’s a pretty meaty pack & bench.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Jackie Brown » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:26 pm

More chance of starting for Ireland if you're from Auckland rather than Belfast.
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Hans Indaruck » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:44 pm

Jackie Brown wrote:
Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:26 pm
More chance of starting for Ireland if you're from Auckland rather than Belfast.
Or even Craigavon! :roll:
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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by jean valjean » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:48 pm

At least there is no ulster scapegoat on the pitch this time when the inevitable comes. Burns and hendo to come on when the game is up and hopefully they don't get crocked.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by Spiffsson » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:24 pm

Roux over Henderson is a joke.

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Re: Autumn Nations Cup aka 8 Nations

Post by jean valjean » Wed Nov 18, 2020 7:47 pm

Spiffsson wrote:Roux over Henderson is a joke.
He's there to stop porter getting minced again.

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