Brexit - now we see what it means.

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Re: Brexit - now we see what it means.

Post by Shan » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:58 pm

Fair point Rooster. Many in her position would have walked after forcing a clueless election which backfired. Ultimately though the decision may not be her own. The Tories have form for ousting female leaders.
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Post by Dave » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:08 pm

Shan wrote:So I see May is now saying that those who don't vote for her deal are placing Brexit itself at risk. I assume she'll have to go if the vote goes against her.
That's a good incentive to vote against her deal.
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Post by Shan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:50 pm

Deal or no deal. Should just get the red boxes into Westminster which would be slightly more entertaining that listening to politicians bulling on.
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Post by Frank » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:31 pm

I might be in the minority here but I'm really enjoying Brexit.
It's so entertaining with all these real characters indulging in shenanigans.
That said I really hope we stay as part of Britain as I don't think the South can afford to keep us.

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Post by Dave » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:38 pm

Hi Baz
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Post by Dave » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:42 pm

Defeated 432 to 202.

That is an ass fcuking.
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Post by Shan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:47 pm

Indeed it is. It will be interesting to see what the EU reaction will be.
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Post by Shan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:56 pm

I suppose it is no surprise that Corbyn has tabled a motion of no confidence in the government. That will be defeated tomorrow and on they will go. If it wasn't for the implications to Ireland I suspect the EU would tell them to f-ck off with no deal.
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Post by Shan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:43 pm

So I hear that Arlene said there was never a hard border on this island. That's a bit creative.
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Post by Setanta » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:12 pm

The problem is this has always been May's plan and she gets it! She has not talked to anyone in the past two years and will not now. The no-deal scenario keeps the Tory party united and to hell with everyone else. I cannot see how Parliament can stop a no-deal scenario so out we go on the 29th March and it will be a catastrophe for Ireland, the UK, and Europe BUT in that order of magnitude. Still the Sixties were not that bad! My greatest fear is the sell-out to the USA. Today's US is so different to the generosity of the Marshall plan after the WWII and even to the principles of the first Republic.
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Post by big mervyn » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:19 pm

Once she had f*cked up the election and lost her majority, the only way that agreement on Brexit was conceivably possible was with some sort of cross party approach.
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Post by Dave » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:21 pm

Shan wrote:So I hear that Arlene said there was never a hard border on this island. That's a bit creative.
Someone found older footage of her reminiscing about a hard border. She grew up in Fermanagh ffs. Absolute clown.
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Post by big mervyn » Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:30 pm

Dave wrote:
Shan wrote:So I hear that Arlene said there was never a hard border on this island. That's a bit creative.
Someone found older footage of her reminiscing about a hard border. She grew up in Fermanagh ffs. Absolute clown.
Probably took great pride in never having set foot in the Free State mind :roll: Arlene is Bitter Orange personified.
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Post by Cap'n Grumpy » Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:55 pm

Shan wrote:So I hear that Arlene said there was never a hard border on this island. That's a bit creative.
Depends on what you mean by hard or soft.

What many regarded as a hard border was nothing to do with customs and everything to do with security.

Prior to that there were customs posts but (and I may be wrong in this) most cars and light vans etc passed freely through without hassle. Larger goods vehicles were prone to checks, but even then not all, or so I have been led to believe.

Possibly you could call it a soft-boiled border, but nothing like the queues of vehicles that have been witnessed at other borders.
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Post by Shan » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:06 pm

Cap'n Grumpy wrote: Depends on what you mean by hard or soft.

What many regarded as a hard border was nothing to do with customs and everything to do with security.

Prior to that there were customs posts but (and I may be wrong in this) most cars and light vans etc passed freely through without hassle. Larger goods vehicles were prone to checks, but even then not all, or so I have been led to believe.

Possibly you could call it a soft-boiled border, but nothing like the queues of vehicles that have been witnessed at other borders.
That is why I very carefully used the word "creative". However thank you Arlene for the input. :D
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