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Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:39 pm God supposedly created the job lot:

The man, the sin, murderous intent, the brain to conceive it, the body to carry it out...

He knew it was going to happen (apparently). That is joint enterprise.
How do you work that one out :scratch:
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BR wrote:
Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:39 pm
At the very least he could have stopped it, therefore gross negligence. Lock him up, ffs.
Does God* have a duty of care over man?

I would argue, He does not.

*christiany type God (white, male, big beard, sits about on fluffy clouds - you know the one)
I thought he loved us????

He can't abdicate his own responsibility.
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Snipe Watson wrote:
Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:39 pm God supposedly created the job lot:

The man, the sin, murderous intent, the brain to conceive it, the body to carry it out...

He knew it was going to happen (apparently). That is joint enterprise.
How do you work that one out :scratch:
Knew about the premeditated plan. Supplied the means.

Guilty as charged.
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Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:54 pm
BR wrote:
Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:39 pm
At the very least he could have stopped it, therefore gross negligence. Lock him up, ffs.
Does God* have a duty of care over man?

I would argue, He does not.

*christiany type God (white, male, big beard, sits about on fluffy clouds - you know the one)
I thought he loved us????

He can't abdicate his own responsibility.
I think He only has responsibility for those with whom he has a contract. Only those who did not enter into that contract died as a result of Hitler's action.
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Snipe Watson wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:22 pm
BR wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 2:51 pm
*christiany type God (white, male, big beard, sits about on fluffy clouds - you know the one)
I'm not familiar with this characterisation of God in Christian teaching.
Strikes me more like how God was depicted in paintings and frescoes over the centuries.
Paintings commissioned by the church as part of their teaching?
I appreciate that many christians of serious faith would not promote that imagery today (other than as art) but i think most folk in this country would recognise it from childhood, if nowhere else.
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BR wrote:
I think He only has responsibility for those with whom he has a contract. Only those who did not enter into that contract died as a result of Hitler's action.
I have no contract with him. I might be sim only. I wouldn't pay much for this crap.
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Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 3:58 pm
Snipe Watson wrote:
Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 12:39 pm God supposedly created the job lot:

The man, the sin, murderous intent, the brain to conceive it, the body to carry it out...

He knew it was going to happen (apparently). That is joint enterprise.
How do you work that one out :scratch:
Knew about the premeditated plan. Supplied the means.

Guilty as charged.
Okay, you're not really comparing apples with apples. If God is God, His relationship to His creation is not as simple as you appear to think it is.
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Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 4:53 pm
BR wrote:
I think He only has responsibility for those with whom he has a contract. Only those who did not enter into that contract died as a result of Hitler's action.
I have no contract with him. I might be sim only. I wouldn't pay much for this crap.
A lot of people are sim only. As long as they can get (a) service on those one or two occassions when they want it, they're happy to do their own thing. Although, increasingly, i find these people have gone PAYG and ditched any sort of ongoing contract. Ultimately, I doubt they can expect any judgement to be in their favour.
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Snipe Watson wrote: Okay, you're not really comparing apples with apples. If God is God, His relationship to His creation is not as simple as you appear to think it is.
Explain....
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Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:30 pm
Snipe Watson wrote: Okay, you're not really comparing apples with apples. If God is God, His relationship to His creation is not as simple as you appear to think it is.
Explain....
BT is not responsible for O2.
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BR wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:41 pm
Dave wrote: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:30 pm
Snipe Watson wrote: Okay, you're not really comparing apples with apples. If God is God, His relationship to His creation is not as simple as you appear to think it is.
Explain....
BT is not responsible for O2.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Yea, close enough.
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From experience, BT think they are not responsible for BT.

Maybe they are God.
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Dave wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 12:11 am From experience, BT think they are not responsible for BT.

Maybe they are God.
No! That's Openreach. From experience.
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Oh I do love a good stir

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