Coronavirus 2020 - What can I do?

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Re: Coronavirus 2020 - What can I do?

Post by Dave » Wed Dec 30, 2020 3:36 pm

damianmcr wrote:Well said Dave. Unfortunately there's far to many stories out there of those who have already refused it or plan to. It's not even those who are vunerable it's the people who are looking after them. Idiots.
It's easier to spread misinformation unfortunately. Thankfully the results in the elderly has been very good which is often not the case. Really these people are putting themselves in danger.
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Post by Dave » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:35 pm

There is no reason to believe there could be any long term effects from an mRNA vaccine. The actual mRNA is incredibly tiny. After injection when it has basically performed it's function it disperses. All that is left is the lipids (fats) that it was based in, some salts and sucrose. All completely benign. That's part of how approval for this vaccine was gained so relatively quickly. There is no mechanism for long term side effects.

The Oxford vaccine, although using previously well utilised methods, still is using a novel adenovirus vector. It is a new vaccine and must go through the same testing requirements. Now that the mRNA vaccine has been approved the sequencing could potentially be altered in the mRNA coding to fight new strains without requiring the full safety testing procedures. Potentially a new coding could be sequenced within a week. That's why the mRNA vaccine could be the silver bullet towards a covid free world.

The main concerns regarding the mRNA were would it actually work. This type of vaccine has never been approved before but 10 years of work and other trials have gone into it's creation. The main issue was investment. Nobody wants to invest in an expensive study with no real certainty on if it actually works. With the emergence of Covid, companies like Pzifer-Biotech and Moderna were given billions up front to begin trialling and manufacturing at the same time. The results of the peer reviewed double blind trials were incredible.

The bottom line is you can't give one vaccine a bye ball on safety without the affording the same to both. Both are just as safe as the other. In determining how long to wait before approving the vaccines they thoroughly reviewed the literature on previous vaccine safety. The literature suggests if no safety concerns were identified after 2 months then the vaccine continued to remain safe. I would be more concerned about the long term effects of playing rugby tbh.

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Post by damianmcr » Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:59 pm

Cheers Dave.

I understand with there finally being a working and approved mRNA vaccine this now opens doors to lots of other things such as cancer. Hopefully we see advances here quickly.

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Post by big mervyn » Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:18 pm

...and there's also the distinct possibility of some ballbeg leaving the Pfizer one out of the fridge for too long.
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Post by Dave » Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:41 pm

If that happens the mRNA would disperse as the lipids melt. You would be injected with just the salts, fats and sugar. You would be better having a fry and a few cream buns.
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Post by big mervyn » Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:24 pm

Dave wrote:
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If that happens the mRNA would disperse as the lipids melt. You would be injected with just the salts, fats and sugar. You would be better having a fry and a few cream buns.
That's what I've been doing for the past 10 months. So far so good ...
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Post by big mervyn » Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:41 pm

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Post by justinr73 » Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:18 pm

It’s all well and good for Nadhim Zahawi to tell us not to sit on park benches but I’ll wager the lazy get has never walked very briskly up the road to Stormont.

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Post by justinr73 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:04 pm

Chief Medical Office Dr Michael McBride has apparently insisted that it’s not “party time” for the vaccinated.

That’s the bingo and whist drives on hold for the time being then.

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Post by rumncoke » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:43 pm

unfortunately I now have received my first injection await the second
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Post by big mervyn » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:14 pm

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Post by rumncoke » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:59 am

Must have Larne(d)his English from this message board.
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Post by big mervyn » Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:29 pm

rumncoke wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:59 am
Must have Larne(d)his English from this message board.
Doubt if he could read or write!
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Post by mid ulster maestro » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:38 am

Bit like some on here. Well the second part at least.
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Re: Coronavirus 2020 - What can I do?

Post by rumncoke » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:39 pm

Nothing wrong with English like she is spoke !

Ask Ernie Wise !
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