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Re: Petrol Prices 2009/2020 - post updates here

Post by big mervyn » Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:37 pm

I'm conducting a little experiment during my extended stay in Espana.

I hire cars for 2 week blocks. Not sure why but it is by far the cheapest way.

My mileage and driving patterns are consistent I,e. A daily commute of 20 miles each way combined with some urban driving,

The cars I've been given all have less than 10000 km on the clock.

Fortnight 1 Fiat 500 petrol self charging hybrid - 48.8 mpg

Fortnight 2 Kia Picanto petrol - 51.3 mpg

Would one not expect the hybrid to offer better fuel economy?

Picked up a Fiat Panda today. I'll give you the stats in 2 weeks!
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Post by volvo » Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:32 pm

Hi Merv

The Fiat 500 is powered by a 1000 cc petrol engine assisted by an electric motor maximum power produced would be just short of 70hp.

The Kia Picanto that you hired would be the euro spec version with a 1250cc petrol engine which produces around 84 hp.

The Fiat being a smaller less powerful engine with the extra weight of an electric motor has to rev a a bit higher to attain the same power output hence uses a bit more fuel.

The Kia being the same weight of car (less the electric motor) with a more powerful 1250cc engine doesn't need to rev as high to attain the same momentum hence uses a bit less fuel.

I find that to attain the best power to weight economy in a mild hybrid it is best to go for a 1600cc engine either in petrol or diesel.

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Post by big mervyn » Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:01 pm

Impressive volvo! The Panda is another self charging hybrid btw.
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Post by volvo » Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:06 pm

Let us know how you get on :thumleft:

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Post by Bobbievee » Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:12 am

Congrats!
The most boring anorak thread ever........ever!!

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Post by volvo » Sun Oct 10, 2021 11:05 am

You're not being forced to read it :lol: >seeya

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Post by Bobbievee » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:53 pm

Nor you to write it!! 😂😂👍👍

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Post by volvo » Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:18 pm

Merv asked a sensible question, hopefully I offered him a sensible answer to a subject I am qualified to answer :thumleft: :D

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Ok ok lighten up!

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Post by BR » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:12 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:37 pm


Picked up a Fiat Panda today. I'll give you the stats in 2 weeks!
Small car, but at your age - I'm impressed! >you_rock
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Post by Snipe Watson » Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:30 pm

BR wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:12 pm
big mervyn wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:37 pm


Picked up a Fiat Panda today. I'll give you the stats in 2 weeks!
Small car, but at your age - I'm impressed! >you_rock
Worth a couple...
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Post by big mervyn » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:14 pm

Bobbievee wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm
Ok ok lighten up!
You'll be excited to learn I'm thinking of starting a thread on heat pumps! Anybody here qualified to dispense advice on those? :lol:
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Post by waggonsroll » Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:58 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Bobbievee wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm
Ok ok lighten up!
You'll be excited to learn I'm thinking of starting a thread on heat pumps! Anybody here qualified to dispense advice on those? Image
This is actually not a stupid suggestion but could usefully be expanded to include any heating systems that will be permitted once gas, oil, solid fuel are banned and there isn't enough electricity to use for heating after all the car batteries are charged up. Bring back the tread mills in prisons anyoneImage

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Post by solidarity » Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:18 pm

waggonsroll wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:58 pm
big mervyn wrote:
Bobbievee wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm
Ok ok lighten up!
You'll be excited to learn I'm thinking of starting a thread on heat pumps! Anybody here qualified to dispense advice on those? Image
This is actually not a stupid suggestion but could usefully be expanded to include any heating systems that will be permitted once gas, oil, solid fuel are banned and there isn't enough electricity to use for heating after all the car batteries are charged up. Bring back the tread mills in prisons anyoneImage

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All the wasted energy of exercise bikes should be harnessed as well. Spin class, anyone?

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Post by big mervyn » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:43 pm

solidarity wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 7:18 pm
waggonsroll wrote:
Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:58 pm
big mervyn wrote:
Bobbievee wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:43 pm
Ok ok lighten up!
You'll be excited to learn I'm thinking of starting a thread on heat pumps! Anybody here qualified to dispense advice on those? Image
This is actually not a stupid suggestion but could usefully be expanded to include any heating systems that will be permitted once gas, oil, solid fuel are banned and there isn't enough electricity to use for heating after all the car batteries are charged up. Bring back the tread mills in prisons anyoneImage

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All the wasted energy of exercise bikes should be harnessed as well. Spin class, anyone?
On a very good day I can average about 250 Watts in an hour. Not sure how reliable the tech is though. The calories are definitely overestimated
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