iHumph can tackle?

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:09 pm

Just looked at the tackling stats on espn. Heroic effort by the pack. Ferris and Touhy both on 19, no show pony there. To my surprise Ian Humphreys made 8 tackles. Great effort 1-15

http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2 ... 44344.html

breakdown · Post by **breakdown** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:14 pm

for me iHumph had a really good defensive game, best i've seen all season although I feel since he concentrated on defending and tackling his kicking went slightly downhill.

Snipe Watson · Post by **Snipe Watson** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:15 pm

He more gets in the way than tackles

breakdown · Post by **breakdown** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:21 pm

Rather him do that than northing at all.

stickinout · Post by **stickinout** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:29 pm

I don't know where Tuohy got the monicker of show pony. He put down a marker today for the naysayers who said he didn't perform at Wolfhounds level. He might not have carried like he does usually but he tackled his heart out and had a decent game. Surely he should be in the mix for the Ireland tour?

BPH · Post by **BPH** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:37 pm

Wallace and Cave were absolutely top class in defence in the midfield. Pity they didn't get a chance to show what they're made of going forward, but they were quietly heroic

stickinout · Post by **stickinout** » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:39 pm

BPH wrote:Wallace and Cave were absolutely top class in defence in the midfield. Pity they didn't get a chance to show what they're made of going forward, but they were quietly heroic

Absolutely, some great tackles going in alright.

rumncoke · Post by **rumncoke** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:49 am

Always have doubts about tackle stats because on many occasions players are not brought to ground in the modern game by a single player so that in fact many are tackle assists rather than tackles.

The major contribution to the defence to-day was the Ulster back row around the edges of the maul and in mid field

the fact that they kept their cool in spite of the provocation of the Munster pack was the big plus - Munster were at their work all afternoon taking out players without the ball and restraining players from joining the maul or take up defensive positions round the maul.

It would have been all to easy for the Ulster players to loose concentration in the circumstances.

stickinout · Post by **stickinout** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:58 am

rumncoke wrote:Always have doubts about tackle stats because on many occasions players are not brought to ground in the modern game by a single player so that in fact many are tackle assists rather than tackles.

The major contribution to the defence to-day was the Ulster back row around the edges of the maul and in mid field

the fact that they kept their cool in spite of the provocation of the Munster pack was the big plus - Munster were at their work all afternoon taking out players without the ball and restraining players from joining the maul or take up defensive positions round the maul.

It would have been all to easy for the Ulster players to loose concentration in the circumstances.

Yeah, i saw a few munster forwards running interference lines ahead of rucks then funnily enough seeing backs punching through there. It's a pet hate of mine, surely any player ahead of a ruck who mucks around with the opposition can be called off-side, or am i wrong? Are they not supposed to retire to behind the ball as expeditiously as possible? The English used to be brilliant at this, and of course NZ are masters of the craft.

BaggyTrousers · Post by **BaggyTrousers** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 1:46 am

stickinout wrote:
rumncoke wrote:Always have doubts about tackle stats because on many occasions players are not brought to ground in the modern game by a single player so that in fact many are tackle assists rather than tackles.

The major contribution to the defence to-day was the Ulster back row around the edges of the maul and in mid field

the fact that they kept their cool in spite of the provocation of the Munster pack was the big plus - Munster were at their work all afternoon taking out players without the ball and restraining players from joining the maul or take up defensive positions round the maul.

It would have been all to easy for the Ulster players to loose concentration in the circumstances.
Yeah, i saw a few munster forwards running interference lines ahead of rucks then funnily enough seeing backs punching through there. It's a pet hate of mine, surely any player ahead of a ruck who mucks around with the opposition can be called off-side, or am i wrong? Are they not supposed to retire to behind the ball as expeditiously as possible? The English used to be brilliant at this, and of course NZ are masters of the craft.

Was about to say we are crap at that, Clermont were given stick by Sky as experts. Most very good teams have that "streetwise" part to their game. Its amazing how seldom its punished.

Tom · Post by **Tom** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:26 am

IHumph did well yesterday, but I was thinking How much more formidable a side we would be with a more complete 10. Would like to see Jackson start next season first choice if possible, be great to have him developing between RP and PW,
the form 9 and 12 in Europe?

bigchiefally · Post by **bigchiefally** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:52 am

Snipe Watson wrote:He more gets in the way than tackles

I would agree with that.

Windeos · Post by **Windeos** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:06 am

ihump was at fault for shooting the line for Zebo's try. He tried to take the easy route out & cut off the pass out wide but was caught out & left Trimble stranded,

IHump cannot tackle at all

Lurgan Lad · Post by **Lurgan Lad** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:14 am

BaggyTrousers wrote:
stickinout wrote:
rumncoke wrote:Always have doubts about tackle stats because on many occasions players are not brought to ground in the modern game by a single player so that in fact many are tackle assists rather than tackles.

The major contribution to the defence to-day was the Ulster back row around the edges of the maul and in mid field

the fact that they kept their cool in spite of the provocation of the Munster pack was the big plus - Munster were at their work all afternoon taking out players without the ball and restraining players from joining the maul or take up defensive positions round the maul.

It would have been all to easy for the Ulster players to loose concentration in the circumstances.
Yeah, i saw a few munster forwards running interference lines ahead of rucks then funnily enough seeing backs punching through there. It's a pet hate of mine, surely any player ahead of a ruck who mucks around with the opposition can be called off-side, or am i wrong? Are they not supposed to retire to behind the ball as expeditiously as possible? The English used to be brilliant at this, and of course NZ are masters of the craft.
Was about to say we are crap at that, Clermont were given stick by Sky as experts. Most very good teams have that "streetwise" part to their game. Its amazing how seldom its punished.

Agree with all this, also saw times when they held our players on the ground well away from rucks. Also want to say in the last few minutes when we had a scrum O'Leary tackled Ruan before the ball had left the scrum, never mind Ruan getting his hands on it and Poite let them away with it. Lots going on on both sides but that is what you expect at this level.

fuzzylogic · Post by **fuzzylogic** » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:48 am

by Tom » Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:26 am

IHumph did well yesterday, but I was thinking How much more formidable a side we would be with a more complete 10. Would like to see Jackson start next season first choice if possible, be great to have him developing between RP and PW,
the form 9 and 12 in Europe?

Have we signed Fofana for next season?

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