Who was your Ulster MOTM vs Castres?

[Rooster]

I don't think Chris is a good captain. He leads by example, but he is not gobby enough.

Why do you want a gobby captain ? too gobby and you get on the wrong side of the ref and that is not good.
Captain needs to be someone who commands the respect of the other players and we can debate it all we like but it will come down to that at the end, at present we have Johann, Rory and Chris so that is probably the pecking order at present, who knows what next season will bring.

[Snipe Watson]

I don't think Chris is a good captain. He leads by example, but he is not gobby enough.

Why do you want a gobby captain ? too gobby and you get on the wrong side of the ref and that is not good.
Captain needs to be someone who commands the respect of the other players and we can debate it all we like but it will come down to that at the end, at present we have Johann, Rory and Chris so that is probably the pecking order at present, who knows what next season will bring.

Let me reword then. In my view, Chris is not a natural communicator. I have noticed when he was captain in the past that he is not forceful enough talking to referees etc. His actions do the talking, but he needs to talk as well. Rory isn’t great either, but Johann is superb so is BOD and POC. You can take it too far as POC did with Poite.

[Rooster]

I don't think Chris is a good captain. He leads by example, but he is not gobby enough.

Why do you want a gobby captain ? too gobby and you get on the wrong side of the ref and that is not good.
Captain needs to be someone who commands the respect of the other players and we can debate it all we like but it will come down to that at the end, at present we have Johann, Rory and Chris so that is probably the pecking order at present, who knows what next season will bring.

Let me reword then. In my view, Chris is not a natural communicator. I have noticed when he was captain in the past that he is not forceful enough talking to referees etc. His actions do the talking, but he needs to talk as well. Rory isn’t great either, but Johann is superb so is BOD and POC. You can take it too far as POC did with Poite.

So Rory or Chris are not great yet Rory has captained both Ulster and Ireland and Chris has captained Ulster and Wolfhounds, nuff said Snipe now take your little tablets and go and lie down in the dark for 8 hours.

[Kofi Annan]

Why don't you think Chris is a good Captain ?

I don't think Chris is a good captain. He leads by example, but he is not gobby enough. Probably too well brought up..........

Kofi - Have a guess - go on ....... you know you want to ........

If being gooby was a prerequisite to being a Captain, then I am afraid sir you would be reduced in rank to buckshee spare body

Bod on the other hand and has become a bit of a gooby Captain IMHO

[Snipe Watson]

Why do you want a gobby captain ? too gobby and you get on the wrong side of the ref and that is not good.
Captain needs to be someone who commands the respect of the other players and we can debate it all we like but it will come down to that at the end, at present we have Johann, Rory and Chris so that is probably the pecking order at present, who knows what next season will bring.

Let me reword then. In my view, Chris is not a natural communicator. I have noticed when he was captain in the past that he is not forceful enough talking to referees etc. His actions do the talking, but he needs to talk as well. Rory isn’t great either, but Johann is superb so is BOD and POC. You can take it too far as POC did with Poite.

So Rory or Chris are not great yet Rory has captained both Ulster and Ireland and Chris has captained Ulster and Wolfhounds, nuff said Snipe now take your little tablets and go and lie down in the dark for 8 hours.

Look again Roaster. I said Rory isn't a natural communicator in the way that Johann is. He's obvoiusly a good captain.
I don't think Chris makes a good captain. Clearly others think he is, but I'm happy with that. I just don't see it.

[Kofi Annan]

Mmmm don't see a lot unless its your opinion

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[Rooster]

Look again Roaster. I said Rory isn't a natural communicator in the way that Johann is. He's obvoiusly a good captain.

So you do admit Rory makes a good captain then ? therefore should he not be next captain when Johann leaves ?

Us discussing this is all crap anyway as next captain will be whoever the chiefs notice gains the respect of the rest of the squad as a captains main function is to unite the squad, talking to a ref is secondary especially when it comes to talking to Clancy or Philips anyway.

[bootlaced]

But I am a huge Chad fan ... the guy mopped up any mistakes, put his body right on the line, always talking and comending the team, when Muller goes he's our next captain. I think he is the ultimate professional, he's been dicked around his whole career by the old UR regeme - even when he was at Malone being told where to play week in week out and moved about - then totally ignored by that muppet Matt Williams, offered not much but then pushed into the lime light to save Ulster when there was injuries - now he has got his reward and respect for just getting on with it. If I had to pick an Ulsterman who embodies what Ulster rugby is about it would be Chris.

Add in Lewis as well, kicked around the AIL for a fair old time before anyone caught on to his potential, he might be a bench man now but reckon he is a starter when Johann goes as well
Come to think of it we have a fair old proportion of players in that type mould, Nigel Brady another one who I don't think no matter who offered him a contract would have left.

Ha Ha,he had to go over to England to establish himself,no doubt we may hear the same re Sandford if/when he comes back,but on a serious note how many Ulster born rugby players are now playing away from home??????????

[Snipe Watson]

So you do admit Rory makes a good captain then ?

Admit that implies that I suggested he wasn't a good captain........

Us discussing this is all crap anyway as next captain will be whoever the chiefs notice gains the respect of the rest of the squad as a captains main function is to unite the squad

Obviously, I didn't think Breakdown was Humph in disguise and polling supporter opinion.
If we weren't allowed to talk crap on this board it would be ...................

talking to a ref is secondary especially when it comes to talking to Clancy or Philips anyway.

or Paterson

[damianmcr]

At the ravens match Chris played in he was captain. He was down with thel team after the Munster try near the end and he did plenty of talking. He seemed furious and was coordinating what to do on the restart.

[Scranner]

Back to the subject - MOTM. For me it was Small P but so many of the rest put in a good shift that it almost seems redundant to choose a MOTM. Thought Henry and Henderson played blinders. Jackson had an excellent game. Tuohy and Muller were immense. And some of the 3/4s weren't too shabby. Celebrate the 5pt win and get set for next week because although they were beaten by N'hampton, Glasgow are not going to be easy.

[darkside lightside]

I don't think Chris is a good captain. He leads by example, but he is not gobby enough.

Why do you want a gobby captain ? too gobby and you get on the wrong side of the ref and that is not good.

Exactly, I think Henry is an exceptional captain for that very reason! I chatted to him in a hotel once, and he was an extremely open and likeable sort of a guy, chatted away even though he had to jump on the bus to the stadium shortly after - I think there's something to be said for that, refs are after all human beings like the rest of us, and react to other people's behaviour like the rest of us